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> Practitioners cite "American freedom" and a stand against "rampant environmentalism" as reasons for coal rolling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal h

> Practitioners cite "American freedom" and a stand against "rampant environmentalism" as reasons for coal rolling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_coal My god. Every time I think I've seen all the possible dumb shit people do something like this inevitably comes up.

mirimir 8y ago
Funny you should say "god". Some argue that environmentalism is inconsistent with Genesis. In that God gave us everything to use as we see fit. But others say that God made humans responsible for managing the Earth. So that environmentalism is indeed Godly. That makes more sense to me, not that I'm particularly religious.
- halfdan 8y ago
  It's interesting - yet eating a single apple cast us out of paradise. Maybe the symbolism here is: Don't take what wasn't yours for the taking (i.e. earth's resources). For the religiously inclined, consider that this planet earth could become our "paradise". Destroying its resources may just cast all of us out of paradise once again.
  - mirimir 8y ago
    Not that it's likely to change anyone's mind, but I do recommend The Making of a Conservative Environmentalist by Gordon K. Durnil (Indiana Univ., 1995).[0] As I recall, one of the core arguments was the equivalence of abusing a child, and poisoning them by polluting the environment. So if one is evil, why not the other? 0) https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/gordon-k-durnil/the-making-of-a-conservative-environmentalist/ https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/gordon-k-durnil/t...
- mamcx 8y ago
  The Bible is very pro-nature. BTW: https://biblehub.com/revelation/11-18.htm https://biblehub.com/revelation/11-18.htm "The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small-- and for destroying those who destroy the earth."
  - mirimir 8y ago
    On balance, I agree. But some do quote selectively, to justify all sorts of horror.
- manicdee 8y ago
  The words used in my bible are "stewardship". That is, we're responsible for maintaining this property in the master's absence.
  - mirimir 8y ago
    That's an excellent translation!
krylon 8y ago
> a stand against "rampant environmentalism" That is like randomly beating people up as a stand against "rampant humanism".
- mirimir 8y ago
  Well, you know, that's also a thing.
  - krylon 8y ago
    It makes me very sad to say this, but you are right.
    - mirimir 8y ago
      My longhair friends and I were targeted now and again, back in the 60s-70s. For a while, I carried a folding buck knife. But then we all started doing Aikido, which was much better overall. Because defense mostly ends up being verbal, flowing around conflict.

mirimir 8y ago

Funny you should say "god". Some argue that environmentalism is inconsistent with Genesis. In that God gave us everything to use as we see fit. But others say that God made humans responsible for managing the Earth. So that environmentalism is indeed Godly. That makes more sense to me, not that I'm particularly religious.

halfdan 8y ago
It's interesting - yet eating a single apple cast us out of paradise. Maybe the symbolism here is: Don't take what wasn't yours for the taking (i.e. earth's resources). For the religiously inclined, consider that this planet earth could become our "paradise". Destroying its resources may just cast all of us out of paradise once again.
- mirimir 8y ago
  Not that it's likely to change anyone's mind, but I do recommend The Making of a Conservative Environmentalist by Gordon K. Durnil (Indiana Univ., 1995).[0] As I recall, one of the core arguments was the equivalence of abusing a child, and poisoning them by polluting the environment. So if one is evil, why not the other? 0) https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/gordon-k-durnil/the-making-of-a-conservative-environmentalist/ https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/gordon-k-durnil/t...
mamcx 8y ago
The Bible is very pro-nature. BTW: https://biblehub.com/revelation/11-18.htm https://biblehub.com/revelation/11-18.htm "The nations were angry, and your wrath has come. The time has come for judging the dead, and for rewarding your servants the prophets and your people who revere your name, both great and small-- and for destroying those who destroy the earth."
- mirimir 8y ago
  On balance, I agree. But some do quote selectively, to justify all sorts of horror.
manicdee 8y ago
The words used in my bible are "stewardship". That is, we're responsible for maintaining this property in the master's absence.
- mirimir 8y ago
  That's an excellent translation!

krylon 8y ago

> a stand against "rampant environmentalism" That is like randomly beating people up as a stand against "rampant humanism".

mirimir 8y ago
Well, you know, that's also a thing.
- krylon 8y ago
  It makes me very sad to say this, but you are right.
  - mirimir 8y ago
    My longhair friends and I were targeted now and again, back in the 60s-70s. For a while, I carried a folding buck knife. But then we all started doing Aikido, which was much better overall. Because defense mostly ends up being verbal, flowing around conflict.