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I'm late here, but you two seem to be talking about two different versions of privacy. My read is that evgen is saying "for most of human history, the work req
by majos 8y ago
I'm late here, but you two seem to be talking about two different versions of privacy.
My read is that evgen is saying "for most of human history, the work required to stay alive has forced humans into the open and exposed much of their lives and movements to their neighbors and community. In this way, humans have not had privacy."
You responded that today companies and governments have much finer-grained data about us and our behaviors than they did even 10 years ago, let alone 50 or 100. True, but these are different claims.
I think we've gained the first kind of privacy and still experienced the privacy loss you mention.
- krn 8y agoYou are right, and I think that his argument about increased offline privacy is completely valid. But what I meant in my initial comment, is that now if I start a new personal document on Google Docs, or if I upload an existing .doc file into Dropbox, I have no control over who, when and for what purpose will access it without my explicit permission. It doesn't necessarily have to be a government agency, whose requests for data don't even require judge's approval in the US[1]. It can even be a machine learning algorithm building a profile on me. [1] https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-orders-google-customer-data-fbi-030845621.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-orders-google-customer-data...