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I would add dress code to this list. "We have smart casual dress code in this software department. So you can't wear shorts event if its 40 degrees celsius. Oh
by Mtntk 8y ago
I would add dress code to this list.
"We have smart casual dress code in this software department. So you can't wear shorts event if its 40 degrees celsius. Oh and shirt is mandatory"
- EliRivers 8y agoWe had a chap who wore leather, except sometimes a T-Shirt expressing quite harshly an opinion about a globally recognised major religious figure from antiquity. I was glad to see a dress code come in.
- sureaboutthis 8y agoWhen I worked in the medical field, doctors would occasionally visit unannounced. We were required to wear a shirt and tie, with an available jacket, at all times.
- arethuza 8y agoI remember my brother in law, who worked in very senior position in a large UK financial institution that "holidays are when you can go into the office and take your suit jacket off". I don't even own a suit :-) Edit: A few years back I turned down a second interview at the same organisation after they insisted I turn up "in standard business attire" - i.e. a suit.
- EliRivers 8y ago"holidays are when you can go into the office and take your suit jacket off" Last time I went on holiday, I took a tailored suit and dressed smarter than I do at work. Three-piece suit (typically I wore just the waistcoat; done right, that looks smarter than the jacket), tailored shirt to go with it. When it's your own choice to look sharp, it's a whole different game.
- sornaensis 8y agoCrass T-shirts are certainly one thing, but what is wrong with leather..?
- bartread 8y agoI was wondering that as well. Exactly what sort of leather garments are we talking about here?
- EliRivers 8y agoThey were leather trousers, as I recall. Laced up at the sides; not sure if they were permanently joined at the top, or if they were just a front and a back that one had to completely tie together. Nobody had a problem with the leather (although a peekaboo stripe of visible leg down the outside of each, covered in a criss cross of something that looked like shoelace was sometimes a surprise). That was just flavour detail.
- bartread 8y agoYeah, OK: not loving the lace-up aspect.
- KozmoNau7 8y agoI feel absolutely blessed that I can wear camo cargo shorts and metal band shirts at work. Obviously I don't wear any of the graphic or gory ones, or from bands with obviously offensive names, and I will choose a nice polo shirt if I know I'm going to be having meetings people from other parts of the organization, especially if they're higher up in the hierarchy. That said, the best head of development we ever had would wear leather pants, ass-kicking boots, rivet belts and band shirts, and he had a Mongol warrior-style beard and hairstyle. He also consistently got the very best reviews and the best results out of his teams.
- philpem 8y agoA literal Rockstar head of development. Wow. :)
- bartread 8y agoI think it's possible to deal with offensive (or otherwise inappropriate) clothing on a case by case basis without the need to bring in a smart dress code. Sometimes people implement policies as a way of avoiding awkward conversations but, to me at any rate, part of being a good manager and leader is measured by your ability and willingness to treat your staff like human beings and have those awkward conversations when it's necessary.
- gsich 8y agoA religion user should be able to handle that.
- EliRivers 8y agoI'm not at all religious, but when I found myself reading "Jesus is a cunt" every time I happened to look at him, it did irk me. I think it would have not mattered what specific name was there, emblazoned in four inch high letters on his clothes.
- sonnyblarney 8y ago"Oh and shirt is mandatory" So wait, coding without a shirt on is how a thing? My god man. If there is air conditioning, slacks shouldn't be a problem though shorts aren't extraordinarily unsuitable. You can wear a shirt man.
- retsibsi 8y agoI think the contrast is shirt vs. t-shirt, rather than shirt vs. bare chest.
- jamestimmins 8y agoIn some countries a "shirt" means specifically a button-down. In the same way that "slacks" means long pants. So this likely just means that a button-down is required rather than a t-shirt.
- chrisdhoover 8y agoA button down shirt is one where the collar is buttoned to the yoke. I think you mean a button up shirt, one that has a placket and buttons in the front versus a pull over or t-shirt.
- jamestimmins 8y agoOh fascinating, I had no idea they had different meanings!