> they are choosing to disallow others from hearing what the target has to say HN allows you to turn on shadowbanned posts. In the several years I've been her

> they are choosing to disallow others from hearing what the target has to say HN allows you to turn on shadowbanned posts. In the several years I've been here, I've seen maybe 3 or 4 shadow banned posts that were of value. In those cases, other users replied to the shadow banned user and told them to message the mods about getting the shadow ban lifted. Heavy moderation of the tone of message works. In a similar vein, the neutral politics sub on reddit is successful because they ban people who are rude. I think that if we moderated tone more often, that a lot of the toxic communities wouldn't even form.