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There’s precedent that Google’s brand doesn’t make people magically swallow programming languages without thinking: Dart. I think it’s disingenuous to reduce G
by giovannibajo1 8y ago
There’s precedent that Google’s brand doesn’t make people magically swallow programming languages without thinking: Dart.
I think it’s disingenuous to reduce Go success to some Google marketing operation. I dislike Google as a brand in the way they design products and their weak privacy stance, but I love Go nonetheless.
- xfer 8y agoGo is also similar to languages like limbo/newsqueak. None of those are popular(many might not have even heard of them). So part of success definitely goes to being successfully marketed as a google product.
- pjmlp 8y agoDart suffered from Google politics, trying to take over JavaScript, and then being dropped by Google's own teams (Chrome and Angular). Being rescued by AdWords team, and now having Flutter team as their last hope. Go hasn't suffered from such politics. Let's not forget that Go is a mix of Oberon-2 and Limbo, both a failure regarding market adoption, in spite of their technical qualities.
- sebe 8y agoSome dart ramblings. Seems to me, that the Chrome team is responsible for Dart demise and its later flutter inspired resurgent. Flutter was started by people in the chrome team, as an experimental project called sky. With regards to making it possible to include the dart vm the oilpan project was started. Oilpan, the replacement of reference counting in Blink, with a tracing garbage collector, this would have made it possible for dart vm to sit along side v8 in chrome. Oilpan was started in 2013 and instead of taking months, it took years, I think it finally arrived in 2016. Here is a dart video from io 2013 announcing oilpan. https://youtu.be/huawCRlo9H4 https://youtu.be/huawCRlo9H4