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Why is the weight of concern to you?

sokoloff 8y ago
Not prior poster, but mass is detrimental to almost every aspect of the driving experience. Heavy cars accelerate slower, brake longer, turn worse, and wear tires more quickly than an equivalent car that's lighter.
- ecpottinger 8y ago
  By that logic the Tesla cars would be losing all the races, but they does not - they win. Did you consider that your experience with ICE cars does not apply directly to BEV cars?
  - sokoloff 8y ago
    What are these track events that Teslas are winning? They're horrible track cars. A plain Jane 911 will walk all over them on a road course. https://www.quora.com/How-does-a-Tesla-perform-on-a-track https://www.quora.com/How-does-a-Tesla-perform-on-a-track https://insideevs.com/expected-tesla-model-s-fails-lap-nurburgring-full-power-video/ https://insideevs.com/expected-tesla-model-s-fails-lap-nurbu... http://www.thedrive.com/news/5207/this-video-reminds-us-that-the-tesla-model-s-is-an-awful-track-car http://www.thedrive.com/news/5207/this-video-reminds-us-that... To be clear: I think the Model S is a fine, if overpriced, road car. I daily a LEAF and like it; I am no electric hater. However, performance of all-battery cars is compromised as compared to lighter cars; it's that pesky physics thing...
    - freehunter 8y ago
      A "plain Jane" $200,000 purpose-built track car will easily beat a $100,000 electric luxury car, that comes as a huge surprise to absolutely no one. https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-model-s-p85d-drag-races-dodge-charger-srt-hellcat/ https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-model-s-p85d-drag-race...
      - sokoloff 8y ago
        > A "plain Jane" $200,000 purpose-built track car will easily beat a $100,000 electric luxury car A plain Jane 911 is neither $200K nor a purpose-built track car.
      - leetcrew 8y ago
        no, a base 911 is about $30,000 cheaper than the fastest model s and will easily wreck it on a track. the tesla can certainly beat it in a drag race, though.
leetcrew 8y ago
massive acceleration in a straight line gets old really fast, and you can't legally enjoy such a car on public roads. any performance oriented car over $25k already has too much power to fully appreciate this way. once a car is "fast enough", weight is the single most important factor for real world driving enjoyment.

Not prior poster, but mass is detrimental to almost every aspect of the driving experience. Heavy cars accelerate slower, brake longer, turn worse, and wear tires more quickly than an equivalent car that's lighter.

ecpottinger 8y ago
By that logic the Tesla cars would be losing all the races, but they does not - they win. Did you consider that your experience with ICE cars does not apply directly to BEV cars?
- sokoloff 8y ago
  What are these track events that Teslas are winning? They're horrible track cars. A plain Jane 911 will walk all over them on a road course. https://www.quora.com/How-does-a-Tesla-perform-on-a-track https://www.quora.com/How-does-a-Tesla-perform-on-a-track https://insideevs.com/expected-tesla-model-s-fails-lap-nurburgring-full-power-video/ https://insideevs.com/expected-tesla-model-s-fails-lap-nurbu... http://www.thedrive.com/news/5207/this-video-reminds-us-that-the-tesla-model-s-is-an-awful-track-car http://www.thedrive.com/news/5207/this-video-reminds-us-that... To be clear: I think the Model S is a fine, if overpriced, road car. I daily a LEAF and like it; I am no electric hater. However, performance of all-battery cars is compromised as compared to lighter cars; it's that pesky physics thing...
  - freehunter 8y ago
    A "plain Jane" $200,000 purpose-built track car will easily beat a $100,000 electric luxury car, that comes as a huge surprise to absolutely no one. https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-model-s-p85d-drag-races-dodge-charger-srt-hellcat/ https://www.motortrend.com/news/tesla-model-s-p85d-drag-race...
    - sokoloff 8y ago
      > A "plain Jane" $200,000 purpose-built track car will easily beat a $100,000 electric luxury car A plain Jane 911 is neither $200K nor a purpose-built track car.
    - leetcrew 8y ago
      no, a base 911 is about $30,000 cheaper than the fastest model s and will easily wreck it on a track. the tesla can certainly beat it in a drag race, though.

leetcrew 8y ago

massive acceleration in a straight line gets old really fast, and you can't legally enjoy such a car on public roads. any performance oriented car over $25k already has too much power to fully appreciate this way. once a car is "fast enough", weight is the single most important factor for real world driving enjoyment.