8 ms·

If you feel your laptop has made you a permanently angry person, why not sell it and cut your loses?

saurik 8y ago
After spending a decade optimizing your workflow to work with Apple's operating system, and after investing tons of money into software and peripherals designed for this ecosystem, it isn't so easy to just give up on it all, even if it is pissing you off and making your life miserable: you essentially just sit around having regrets and building up anger at the idiots who screwed it all up.
- some_account 8y ago
  No, really, you have to leave. If you don't switch, are you going to use only Apple products your entire life from now? Seriously? There are many, many devs right now who is switching from MacBooks to Linux machines because Linux on the desktop is really nice (just not perfect), and you suddenly feel very much alive again when you don't sit and wait for Apple to fix your problems. You fix them yourself, and you no longer care for the next version of IOS or the next MacBook etc. t's freedom, honestly, truly. You are single again. You have left the bad relationship. You are free and happy. So much choice all of a sudden. It's great!
  - sieabahlpark 8y ago
    I don't want to spend the time to fix them myself.
    - nolok 8y ago
      There is very little to fix anymore unless you go for exotic hardware. Granted I went very safe with an XPS and Xubuntu, but I don't think I've had a single "how do I make this work" moment. Ah yes wait one, I had to activate the keyboard switch for the webcam to be detected, but that would have been the same on another os.
- tnegoshi 8y ago
  https://github.com/wmchris/DellXPS15-9550-OSX https://github.com/wmchris/DellXPS15-9550-OSX
- tim333 8y ago
  You could always get a second hand one from before the recent 'improvements'. (Typed from a well functioning second hand macbook)
akulbe 8y ago
I would also say no, absolutely not. It's not worth it in the least. I have been a Mac user for less time (~16 years for me) than the previous commenter. I have lost confidence in Apple's ability to deliver: a. a quality laptop that can get the job done, and b. a quality OS that I can trust to just work. I am typing this to you from a Dell XPS 9560 because the 2016 MBP w/Touch Bar has been such a shitshow. It's been in for repairs THREE TIMES. Between the 2nd and 3rd trip, I switched back to Windows and installed WSL (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10 https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10) Windows, VERY ironically, has proven WAY more stable and reliable than macOS. <-- that blows my mind. I HAVE tried to sell my MBP even at a significant discount over the purchase price. (bought for $4300, I'm asking $3000 and even lowered to $2500) NO BITES. The machine is in immaculate condition, too. I would be surprised if the other commenter has not had a similar experience. If Apple is going to be as mediocre as everyone else, then there's absolutely NO POINT to the price premium, and they won't hold their value like they used to. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- nolok 8y ago
  Windows 10 is a surprisingly awesome OS, once you remove the thin layer of crap they spray on it (Google "O&O ShutUp10" for a 20 second fix) and learn to ignore their store. The whole thing is clean, efficient, runs well and freaking works. And like you said, WSL moved it into actually usable territory for developers.
- Jeremy1026 8y ago
  "I HAVE tried to sell my MBP even at a significant discount over the purchase price. (bought for $4300, I'm asking $3000 and even lowered to $2500) NO BITES. The machine is in immaculate condition, too." I think that your problem is that the secondary market doesn't care about specs. They care about the Apple logo on the back, for the most part. So your extra RAM and bigger SSD aren't features to them. They just see the cost is $1000-$1500 more than they could buy a new one for.

After spending a decade optimizing your workflow to work with Apple's operating system, and after investing tons of money into software and peripherals designed for this ecosystem, it isn't so easy to just give up on it all, even if it is pissing you off and making your life miserable: you essentially just sit around having regrets and building up anger at the idiots who screwed it all up.

some_account 8y ago
No, really, you have to leave. If you don't switch, are you going to use only Apple products your entire life from now? Seriously? There are many, many devs right now who is switching from MacBooks to Linux machines because Linux on the desktop is really nice (just not perfect), and you suddenly feel very much alive again when you don't sit and wait for Apple to fix your problems. You fix them yourself, and you no longer care for the next version of IOS or the next MacBook etc. t's freedom, honestly, truly. You are single again. You have left the bad relationship. You are free and happy. So much choice all of a sudden. It's great!
- sieabahlpark 8y ago
  I don't want to spend the time to fix them myself.
  - nolok 8y ago
    There is very little to fix anymore unless you go for exotic hardware. Granted I went very safe with an XPS and Xubuntu, but I don't think I've had a single "how do I make this work" moment. Ah yes wait one, I had to activate the keyboard switch for the webcam to be detected, but that would have been the same on another os.
tnegoshi 8y ago
https://github.com/wmchris/DellXPS15-9550-OSX https://github.com/wmchris/DellXPS15-9550-OSX
tim333 8y ago
You could always get a second hand one from before the recent 'improvements'. (Typed from a well functioning second hand macbook)

akulbe 8y ago

I would also say no, absolutely not. It's not worth it in the least. I have been a Mac user for less time (~16 years for me) than the previous commenter. I have lost confidence in Apple's ability to deliver: a. a quality laptop that can get the job done, and b. a quality OS that I can trust to just work. I am typing this to you from a Dell XPS 9560 because the 2016 MBP w/Touch Bar has been such a shitshow. It's been in for repairs THREE TIMES. Between the 2nd and 3rd trip, I switched back to Windows and installed WSL (https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10 https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-win10) Windows, VERY ironically, has proven WAY more stable and reliable than macOS. <-- that blows my mind. I HAVE tried to sell my MBP even at a significant discount over the purchase price. (bought for $4300, I'm asking $3000 and even lowered to $2500) NO BITES. The machine is in immaculate condition, too. I would be surprised if the other commenter has not had a similar experience. If Apple is going to be as mediocre as everyone else, then there's absolutely NO POINT to the price premium, and they won't hold their value like they used to. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

nolok 8y ago
Windows 10 is a surprisingly awesome OS, once you remove the thin layer of crap they spray on it (Google "O&O ShutUp10" for a 20 second fix) and learn to ignore their store. The whole thing is clean, efficient, runs well and freaking works. And like you said, WSL moved it into actually usable territory for developers.
Jeremy1026 8y ago
"I HAVE tried to sell my MBP even at a significant discount over the purchase price. (bought for $4300, I'm asking $3000 and even lowered to $2500) NO BITES. The machine is in immaculate condition, too." I think that your problem is that the secondary market doesn't care about specs. They care about the Apple logo on the back, for the most part. So your extra RAM and bigger SSD aren't features to them. They just see the cost is $1000-$1500 more than they could buy a new one for.