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Range will solve this issue. For 18 months I charged my Tesla at Whole Foods, Target, etc, at a paltry 20mph charge rate. When my commute was 40+ miles round tr
by Zanni 8y ago
Range will solve this issue. For 18 months I charged my Tesla at Whole Foods, Target, etc, at a paltry 20mph charge rate. When my commute was 40+ miles round trip, that meant I had to charge a couple of times a week for multiple hours. Very frustrating. But when I got my weekly miles under my max range (180 miles) and started using a near-ish high-speed charger, I'd just catch a movie once a week, and my car would be fully charged for the week by the time I was through. A high-speed charger is enough to put 300-400 miles on an EV while you watch an average movie, if they have that capacity.
- stephengillie 8y agoMy Camry Hybrid can have 500+ miles of range recharged in a few minutes. That's the "killer app" that electric has to beat, one way or another. Spending multiple hours recharging is like driving 30mph on the freeway.
- greglindahl 8y agoAnd yet hybrid sales are low, despite your enthusiasm.
- giobox 8y agoHybrid or not isn’t really the point. A gas car refills to max range almost instantly. It just so happens this Camry example has particularly good range on one tank of gas by virtue of being a hybrid, but the point is no more diminished with any other ICE car. Many non-hybrid models will also comfortably manage 500+ miles on a single tank. All that said, I suspect there is a “good enough” tipping point for EVs, especially now that we are seeing some manage ~300 miles on one charge, which is more than enough for many commutes/weekly shopping trips etc.
- greglindahl 8y agoUh, OK, I thought it was, but you're free to disagree. I do agree that there's a ton of evidence that Tesla's S/X have plenty of range for most people to not be bothered by it. And it doesn't appear to matter to these folks that a hybrid would fill up faster, which brings us back to hybrids.
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- colordrops 8y agoIt's moving quickly. The Tesla Model 3 can charge over 300 miles in less than an hour. It's coming fast.
- adrianN 8y agoOnce it becomes easy to charge your car overnight, e.g. because every street lamp is a charging station, I don't think the charging time matters very much anymore.
- layoric 8y agoThe killer app of EVs with access to home chargers (even slow ones) is that going somewhere else to fill up the car will be a rare occurrence. UK stats show EVs only charge outside home or work ~7% of the time. For a minority of people, regular fast charging will be a must but vast majority of people will just stop going else where to fill up their cars.