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Your forgetting that the college kids of them only had to know basic php and JavaScript to build a server + front end web UI. Now it’s at minimum 2 years to lea

Your forgetting that the college kids of them only had to know basic php and JavaScript to build a server + front end web UI. Now it’s at minimum 2 years to learn the deep fundamentals of react/redux/graphql then tying it into lambdas on the backend , maybe another year of study to learn full kubernetes integration , then another year to fully grasp how to set up and side chain in a deep learning pipeline with proper selection of production grade ML framework. Learn them all then choose which one works best. After that to reach youth in mobile sector , take 1.5 years to fully learn iOS and android native platform builds . Etc etc . It’s not that college kids are too young . It’s that they need to take the recommended time to learn and deploy all the necessary tech to launch a successful startup! EDIT: this was a \s piece but obviously it went over some peoples heads lol

cheez 8y ago
I think you're exhibiting some wishful thinking there. It's still not hard to create a FB MVP with tuts.
mandeepj 8y ago
You can still start with plain old html, js, Ajax and a data store. Once, you reach some scale or in parallel, you can hire someone else to do it. There is a lot of open source tech now, which was not available before.
kristiandupont 8y ago
Most of that isn’t necessary until you’re pretty far into the game. I’d argue that the barrier to starting a startup gets lower every year.
Animats 8y ago
Now it’s at minimum 2 years to learn the deep fundamentals of react/redux/graphql then tying it into lambdas on the back end, maybe another year of study to learn full kubernetes integration , then another year to fully grasp how to set up and side chain in a deep learning pipeline with proper selection of production grade ML framework. Learn them all then choose which one works best. After that to reach youth in mobile sector, take 1.5 years to fully learn iOS and android native platform builds. By which time the web crowd will have moved on to something else.
- pinewurst 8y ago
  ...even more floridly complex and requiring an even longer time to use well. I think we’ve already contracted the Average Hot Lifetime to less than the Effective Learning Period.
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billyhoffman 8y ago
Startup companies need to understand their customers and solve a real and valuable problem. The tech stack is simply a means to that end. There are a vanishingly small number of customer problems that require years of tech proficiency across a wide range subjects to build a successful product. Propagating nonsense about needing to have deep understanding in widely different fields (ML! DevOps! Frontend!) is not only patently wrong, it is needlessly discouraging.
quickthrower2 8y ago
For a "marketing" style startup you just need very basic tech. For a more "high-tech" startup - yes you will need a whole bunch of hard to master tech, although not necessarily the stuff you mentioned.

cheez 8y ago

I think you're exhibiting some wishful thinking there. It's still not hard to create a FB MVP with tuts.

mandeepj 8y ago

You can still start with plain old html, js, Ajax and a data store. Once, you reach some scale or in parallel, you can hire someone else to do it. There is a lot of open source tech now, which was not available before.

kristiandupont 8y ago

Most of that isn’t necessary until you’re pretty far into the game. I’d argue that the barrier to starting a startup gets lower every year.

Animats 8y ago

Now it’s at minimum 2 years to learn the deep fundamentals of react/redux/graphql then tying it into lambdas on the back end, maybe another year of study to learn full kubernetes integration , then another year to fully grasp how to set up and side chain in a deep learning pipeline with proper selection of production grade ML framework. Learn them all then choose which one works best. After that to reach youth in mobile sector, take 1.5 years to fully learn iOS and android native platform builds. By which time the web crowd will have moved on to something else.

pinewurst 8y ago
...even more floridly complex and requiring an even longer time to use well. I think we’ve already contracted the Average Hot Lifetime to less than the Effective Learning Period.

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billyhoffman 8y ago

Startup companies need to understand their customers and solve a real and valuable problem. The tech stack is simply a means to that end. There are a vanishingly small number of customer problems that require years of tech proficiency across a wide range subjects to build a successful product. Propagating nonsense about needing to have deep understanding in widely different fields (ML! DevOps! Frontend!) is not only patently wrong, it is needlessly discouraging.

quickthrower2 8y ago

For a "marketing" style startup you just need very basic tech. For a more "high-tech" startup - yes you will need a whole bunch of hard to master tech, although not necessarily the stuff you mentioned.