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Michael Arrington loves taking things out of context. I hate it when non-programmers write about programming! It's a giant festival of stupid.

by henning 19y ago

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hwork 19y ago
For what it's worth, I contributed to the article and I call myself a programmer.
- henning 19y ago
  Do you and Arrington have some kind of confidential knowledge about Twitter's implementation that allows you to conclude that its problems are directly attributable to Rails itself and not how it was implemented, or something that has nothing to do with the programming language at all (the hosting facility they use, their operating system, ...)? Or are you just trolling?
  - hwork 19y ago
    Yeah I think your question is a fair one. But I don't think it's ridiculous to assume that the stability and operational functionality of a website is primarily dependent on the web framework the website uses. The data center is probably the second to blame, but I don't think that Twitter's problems are related to continual issues with their hosting (though i'm sure some are). I doubt the blame lies on Debian, or whatever their using.
    - ericb 19y ago
      Actually, that is ridiculous to assume.
    - henning 19y ago
      It is possible to write buggy, unstable, unreliable, unscalable applications in any framework or language and just because you use a certain technology doesn't mean anything about whether you'll create an app with a good experience. Handing a sniper rifle to someone does not make them a sniper. Snipers have personal qualities and training that make them what they are; their weapons are just tools that help them realize their inherent abilities as well as possible. Why are you and other TechCrunch people so eager to assign blame when you don't actually know anything about what you're assigning blame for?
      - hwork 19y ago
        Just to keep the conversation going: what do you think Twitter's main issues are ? (Or do you think their downtime is not worth mentioning?)
        ashu 19y ago
        What the parent says is that a proper assessment will require an in-depth knowledge of how it is actually implemented. Taking random shots like this article does is like a blind man trying to grope an elephant.
        jamesbritt 19y ago
        " Taking random shots like this article does is like a blind man trying to grope an elephant." Groping an elephant seems like a bad idea even for the sighted.
        DanielBMarkham 19y ago
        I would like to second the call for an immediate stop to elephant groping. Elephants are a dear and treasured species. This continual assault by blind people and various other gropers have too often left our Loxodonta Africanan friends cowering in terror. As for RoR, I'll simply quote a good friend of mine. "RoR rocks! Scaling isn't that big a deal. Took us over six months to get the stack just right for a recent customer." Ugh.
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edw519 19y ago
"I hate it when non-programmers write about programming!" It doesn't matter what he says. All that matters is that you notice. After 30 minutes, you are the #1 response to the #2 thread. So people click through. Cha-ching.
- ashu 19y ago
  True journalism, indeed.
  - alaskamiller 19y ago
    Michael never claimed to be a journalist. You're likely mixing up the professions because you think TechCrunch has gotten so big that it has and cares about its reputation. That wouldn't be the case, he just writes whatever he can to continue to generate pageviews.
simianstyle 19y ago
Well it's getting to the point where it's like a tabloid now.

Michael Arrington loves taking things out of context. I hate it when non-programmers write about programming! It's a giant festival of stupid.

by henning 19y ago

Michael Arrington loves taking things out of context. I hate it when non-programmers write about programming! It's a giant festival of stupid.

deleted 19y ago

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hwork 19y ago

For what it's worth, I contributed to the article and I call myself a programmer.

henning 19y ago
Do you and Arrington have some kind of confidential knowledge about Twitter's implementation that allows you to conclude that its problems are directly attributable to Rails itself and not how it was implemented, or something that has nothing to do with the programming language at all (the hosting facility they use, their operating system, ...)? Or are you just trolling?
- hwork 19y ago
  Yeah I think your question is a fair one. But I don't think it's ridiculous to assume that the stability and operational functionality of a website is primarily dependent on the web framework the website uses. The data center is probably the second to blame, but I don't think that Twitter's problems are related to continual issues with their hosting (though i'm sure some are). I doubt the blame lies on Debian, or whatever their using.
  - ericb 19y ago
    Actually, that is ridiculous to assume.
  - henning 19y ago
    It is possible to write buggy, unstable, unreliable, unscalable applications in any framework or language and just because you use a certain technology doesn't mean anything about whether you'll create an app with a good experience. Handing a sniper rifle to someone does not make them a sniper. Snipers have personal qualities and training that make them what they are; their weapons are just tools that help them realize their inherent abilities as well as possible. Why are you and other TechCrunch people so eager to assign blame when you don't actually know anything about what you're assigning blame for?
    - hwork 19y ago
      Just to keep the conversation going: what do you think Twitter's main issues are ? (Or do you think their downtime is not worth mentioning?)
      - ashu 19y ago
        What the parent says is that a proper assessment will require an in-depth knowledge of how it is actually implemented. Taking random shots like this article does is like a blind man trying to grope an elephant.
        jamesbritt 19y ago
        " Taking random shots like this article does is like a blind man trying to grope an elephant." Groping an elephant seems like a bad idea even for the sighted.
        DanielBMarkham 19y ago
        I would like to second the call for an immediate stop to elephant groping. Elephants are a dear and treasured species. This continual assault by blind people and various other gropers have too often left our Loxodonta Africanan friends cowering in terror. As for RoR, I'll simply quote a good friend of mine. "RoR rocks! Scaling isn't that big a deal. Took us over six months to get the stack just right for a recent customer." Ugh.
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edw519 19y ago

"I hate it when non-programmers write about programming!" It doesn't matter what he says. All that matters is that you notice. After 30 minutes, you are the #1 response to the #2 thread. So people click through. Cha-ching.

ashu 19y ago
True journalism, indeed.
- alaskamiller 19y ago
  Michael never claimed to be a journalist. You're likely mixing up the professions because you think TechCrunch has gotten so big that it has and cares about its reputation. That wouldn't be the case, he just writes whatever he can to continue to generate pageviews.

simianstyle 19y ago

Well it's getting to the point where it's like a tabloid now.