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A web framework let you work on the back-end, but had the interesting quality that anyone who used it pretty much had to admit it or contact you. I wonder abou

A web framework let you work on the back-end, but had the interesting quality that anyone who used it pretty much had to admit it or contact you. I wonder about this. Seems like there are plenty of rails / django / joomla sites out there, but not sure how many proudly display the "Powered By" badge, or contribute back.

zedshaw 16y ago
The rails-core guys would frequently hit a site, and then pull down the rails logo they silently dropped into everyone's directory. That or they'd look for Mongrel headers. Also, eventually all the employees at these companies leave and then you hear about who's using what because the employees tell you. That's different than say a web server or chat protocol where you don't have to say at all what server it is, and it's usage is just about configuration rather than daily coding on it. With infrastructure nobody should really be talking to you if you've done your job right.
rmoriz 16y ago
On how many sites do you see a note (not even in the html source or http response header) on what it's built? It was the motivation for me to build http://IsItRails.com/ http://IsItRails.com/ because in general so few sites tell something about the used technology stack. From time to time I'm receiving mails telling me to remove a listed site because of some "company policy"… wtf.
- jerf 16y ago
  I don't know if this is specifically the reason, but PCI compliance requires you to hide the version number of your server software to make it harder to trivially scan your infrastructure. They may have considered this a website saying what framework they use to be a similar risk. (If you consider that a dubious security measure, well, I'd be the wrong one to take it up with.)
- sovande 16y ago
  IsItRails.com; Error 503 Service Unavailable. So I guess it is rails.
  - rmoriz 16y ago
    had to reboot the system because I've added more RAM to the VM (because 'gem mirror' uses A LOT)

zedshaw 16y ago

The rails-core guys would frequently hit a site, and then pull down the rails logo they silently dropped into everyone's directory. That or they'd look for Mongrel headers. Also, eventually all the employees at these companies leave and then you hear about who's using what because the employees tell you. That's different than say a web server or chat protocol where you don't have to say at all what server it is, and it's usage is just about configuration rather than daily coding on it. With infrastructure nobody should really be talking to you if you've done your job right.

rmoriz 16y ago

On how many sites do you see a note (not even in the html source or http response header) on what it's built? It was the motivation for me to build http://IsItRails.com/ http://IsItRails.com/ because in general so few sites tell something about the used technology stack. From time to time I'm receiving mails telling me to remove a listed site because of some "company policy"… wtf.

jerf 16y ago
I don't know if this is specifically the reason, but PCI compliance requires you to hide the version number of your server software to make it harder to trivially scan your infrastructure. They may have considered this a website saying what framework they use to be a similar risk. (If you consider that a dubious security measure, well, I'd be the wrong one to take it up with.)
sovande 16y ago
IsItRails.com; Error 503 Service Unavailable. So I guess it is rails.
- rmoriz 16y ago
  had to reboot the system because I've added more RAM to the VM (because 'gem mirror' uses A LOT)