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This game's thematics are about war, demons, magic, killing, slaughtering, enslaving, pestilence etc and a silly card from a decade+ ago is a problem? Don't man

by nugga 8y ago

This game's thematics are about war, demons, magic, killing, slaughtering, enslaving, pestilence etc and a silly card from a decade+ ago is a problem? Don't manufacture outrage please.

UncleMeat 8y ago
While I agree that the card is largely unimportant and mostly seen as weird trivia, the art was created by a white nationalist and contains klan hoods. It is more tied to our real world than just the vague notion of racism.
flashman 8y ago
Is there a name for the logical fallacy of saying in-game murder is no worse than making references to real-world hate groups?
- nugga 8y ago
  All the other references to seriously heinous and potentially more destructive things don't seem to bother not much anyone or at least can not be used to rile up controversy to the same degree as racist imagery or references. It seems to be ok to glorify killing or at least portray it in totally acceptable or neutral light but any reference to possible prejudice or separation or claims of inferiority of certain groups or species compared to others is a no go? In the light of america's past treatment of minorities starting from natives and then blacks and even discrimination of specific groups of whites it is perhaps understandable people are wary of it but try to see the situation objectively without any historical bias or taking sides and simply the first principles of what is portrayed or stated.
bikamonki 8y ago
I am not trying to manufacture anything. There is an obvious difference between: fantasy war game and reference to reality's past events. That is why you do not see a card called Gas Chamber: Choose a creature type, destroy all creatures of the chosen type, nor one named Crucifixion: destroy target god. As I said, in line with an article that highlights MTG's efforts to incorporate diversity into game design, Invoke Prejudice is a card that needs to be removed from the game.

by nugga 8y ago

This game's thematics are about war, demons, magic, killing, slaughtering, enslaving, pestilence etc and a silly card from a decade+ ago is a problem? Don't manufacture outrage please.

UncleMeat 8y ago

While I agree that the card is largely unimportant and mostly seen as weird trivia, the art was created by a white nationalist and contains klan hoods. It is more tied to our real world than just the vague notion of racism.

flashman 8y ago

Is there a name for the logical fallacy of saying in-game murder is no worse than making references to real-world hate groups?

nugga 8y ago
All the other references to seriously heinous and potentially more destructive things don't seem to bother not much anyone or at least can not be used to rile up controversy to the same degree as racist imagery or references. It seems to be ok to glorify killing or at least portray it in totally acceptable or neutral light but any reference to possible prejudice or separation or claims of inferiority of certain groups or species compared to others is a no go? In the light of america's past treatment of minorities starting from natives and then blacks and even discrimination of specific groups of whites it is perhaps understandable people are wary of it but try to see the situation objectively without any historical bias or taking sides and simply the first principles of what is portrayed or stated.

bikamonki 8y ago

I am not trying to manufacture anything. There is an obvious difference between: fantasy war game and reference to reality's past events. That is why you do not see a card called Gas Chamber: Choose a creature type, destroy all creatures of the chosen type, nor one named Crucifixion: destroy target god. As I said, in line with an article that highlights MTG's efforts to incorporate diversity into game design, Invoke Prejudice is a card that needs to be removed from the game.