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Their tracking is probably imperfect, but it seems like a reasonable indicator. I'm still waiting to see if their data has some flaw, or maybe if github has mo

by zedshaw 16y ago

Their tracking is probably imperfect, but it seems like a reasonable indicator. I'm still waiting to see if their data has some flaw, or maybe if github has more. However, that data wasn't the point, just an indicator.

chmod 16y ago
http://www.ohloh.net/p/numpy http://www.ohloh.net/p/numpy Numpy must be stealing from other projects, as they have -150KLOC
- barrkel 16y ago
  To make that clear to others - like me - that didn't see it first time, that's negative 150K lines of code.
  - cdavid 16y ago
    This is weird :) We recently moved to github (where recent is a few days), so I wonder if that's linked Also, numpy is not mainly written in modula-2.
    - dmm 16y ago
      Hmm I don't see a denial of the "Very few source code comments" analysis... ;)
      - cdavid 16y ago
        Nope, nor does it need one. Source comments are weakly correlated with code quality :) Moreoever, you have to be careful about numbers of lines-based statistics for numpy and scipy, because a lot of code is generated or 3rd party libraries (that are integrated because no distribution has them packaged, not even debian). Also, cloc gives me vastly different numbers, with a lot of comments and all (but again, not very meaningful because of generated/integrated code). ohlo stats are not very reliable in my experience, at least for the packages I am involved with.
dfox 16y ago
That decline looks too "perfect" to be believable. My theory: projects migrate away from sourceforge and don't bother to enlist new repositories in ohloh.
- zedshaw 16y ago
  Sourceforge? Ohloh collects stats and information from all over, they even have a Mongrel2 project page and I've never set it up. I'm pretty sure you're mistaken about the kind and quality of data they collect, but who knows. Their blog seems to say they track git, cvs, svn, others? http://www.ohloh.net/blog/new_subversion_downloader http://www.ohloh.net/blog/new_subversion_downloader That's also why I mentioned github, they could provide other data (if they weren't too busy inflating their numbers by counting every commit, gists, forks, and duplicate projects as a "project").
  - dfox 16y ago
    They can track almost anything, but require somebody to manually create the project and "enlist" it's source repositories. And because often the person who created the Ohloh project has almost nothing to do with original project these data tend to get stale.
Encosia 16y ago
They've got Firebug with 400k+ LoC, Firefox with ~60K LoC, and Chromium with almost 4 million LoC. That doesn't inspire much confidence.
weavejester 16y ago
According to GitHub, the amount of commits its getting per day has increased considerably: http://github.com/blog/620-committing-like-crazy http://github.com/blog/620-committing-like-crazy Does anyone know how Oholoh gets its numbers? As far as I can tell, projects have to be manually added; it doesn't appear to scrape them from hosting sites.

by zedshaw 16y ago

chmod 16y ago

http://www.ohloh.net/p/numpy http://www.ohloh.net/p/numpy Numpy must be stealing from other projects, as they have -150KLOC

barrkel 16y ago
To make that clear to others - like me - that didn't see it first time, that's negative 150K lines of code.
- cdavid 16y ago
  This is weird :) We recently moved to github (where recent is a few days), so I wonder if that's linked Also, numpy is not mainly written in modula-2.
  - dmm 16y ago
    Hmm I don't see a denial of the "Very few source code comments" analysis... ;)
    - cdavid 16y ago
      Nope, nor does it need one. Source comments are weakly correlated with code quality :) Moreoever, you have to be careful about numbers of lines-based statistics for numpy and scipy, because a lot of code is generated or 3rd party libraries (that are integrated because no distribution has them packaged, not even debian). Also, cloc gives me vastly different numbers, with a lot of comments and all (but again, not very meaningful because of generated/integrated code). ohlo stats are not very reliable in my experience, at least for the packages I am involved with.

dfox 16y ago

That decline looks too "perfect" to be believable. My theory: projects migrate away from sourceforge and don't bother to enlist new repositories in ohloh.

zedshaw 16y ago
Sourceforge? Ohloh collects stats and information from all over, they even have a Mongrel2 project page and I've never set it up. I'm pretty sure you're mistaken about the kind and quality of data they collect, but who knows. Their blog seems to say they track git, cvs, svn, others? http://www.ohloh.net/blog/new_subversion_downloader http://www.ohloh.net/blog/new_subversion_downloader That's also why I mentioned github, they could provide other data (if they weren't too busy inflating their numbers by counting every commit, gists, forks, and duplicate projects as a "project").
- dfox 16y ago
  They can track almost anything, but require somebody to manually create the project and "enlist" it's source repositories. And because often the person who created the Ohloh project has almost nothing to do with original project these data tend to get stale.

Encosia 16y ago

They've got Firebug with 400k+ LoC, Firefox with ~60K LoC, and Chromium with almost 4 million LoC. That doesn't inspire much confidence.

weavejester 16y ago

According to GitHub, the amount of commits its getting per day has increased considerably: http://github.com/blog/620-committing-like-crazy http://github.com/blog/620-committing-like-crazy Does anyone know how Oholoh gets its numbers? As far as I can tell, projects have to be manually added; it doesn't appear to scrape them from hosting sites.