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This doesn't make any sense. I'm in semi-northern Europe and we get like 6-hours of light at the lowest point. How does it make the winter darker if that light

This doesn't make any sense. I'm in semi-northern Europe and we get like 6-hours of light at the lowest point. How does it make the winter darker if that light is from 10-16 rather than 9-15 ? Better to have the light even later in winter, instead of while inside during work, like 14-20.

wott 8y ago
None of the arguments against DST make sense (like the cow milking one, Jesus...). I heard that one too on the radio in France, I almost fell from my chair. I lived many years in Lapland, and nobody cared about the so-called 'problems' of DST: what does it matter when you have 24 hours of night or 24 hours of day, and the times of sunrise and sunset changes super fast and super strongly in between? It only matters for South- and Central-Europe countries. ----------- The question itself was horrible. It was just 2-sentence long but yet full of EU propaganda. I mean, quite a performance, I had never seen anything before like that. I was so dishonest and wrong on so many levels. Evidence suggests that common EU rules in this area are very important to ensure the proper functioning of the internal market. In order to ensure such common rules also for the future, which of the following alternatives would you favour: * Keeping the current EU arrangements switching between summer and wintertime for all EU Member States * Abolishing the switching for all EU Member States? First, why the fuck should EU interfere with the States chosen time? "Evidence suggests"... uh, what? Any sentence starting this way is probably bullshit. Why the heck is such a minor detail point so important for the "proper functioning"? It has been functioning without troubles for decades. Why on Earth should the "internal market" be the SINGLE reason stated for imposing such changes? So, what's next : "In order to ensure such common rules also for the future". Er... what? We already jumped to the point where we agreed on everything said before. No we didn't! Then the only choices are both "for all EU Member states". There is no "why should I tell the XXians how they should handle their time, let them use what they fancy, it is such a minor detail". ------------ Every single sentence, every single word in this question was politically loaded, yet falsely presented as taken for granted. EU propaganda in a nutshell, always presented as the only, obvious, natural, reasonable, choice.
mrweasel 8y ago
It may seem like it would be better, but the russians actually tried it, and it turns out that's it's not. The argument in Russia was that permanent summer time cause stress and health issues (https://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/russia-abandons-permanent-summer-time.html https://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/russia-abandons-perman...). The part that's weird is that everyone have arguments as to why DST would be better, but the country that actually tried it switch to permanent winter time after few years. Between 1948 and 1981 Denmark didn't even have summer time and Germany managed just fine without DST from 1949 to 1980, so why can't we go back to not having it?
madcaptenor 8y ago
And this is probably why Iceland doesn't have DST - no point in having it that far north. (Although they're on UTC year-round when they're "naturally" on the western edge of UTC-1, so you could say they have year-round DST.)

wott 8y ago

None of the arguments against DST make sense (like the cow milking one, Jesus...). I heard that one too on the radio in France, I almost fell from my chair. I lived many years in Lapland, and nobody cared about the so-called 'problems' of DST: what does it matter when you have 24 hours of night or 24 hours of day, and the times of sunrise and sunset changes super fast and super strongly in between? It only matters for South- and Central-Europe countries. ----------- The question itself was horrible. It was just 2-sentence long but yet full of EU propaganda. I mean, quite a performance, I had never seen anything before like that. I was so dishonest and wrong on so many levels. Evidence suggests that common EU rules in this area are very important to ensure the proper functioning of the internal market. In order to ensure such common rules also for the future, which of the following alternatives would you favour: * Keeping the current EU arrangements switching between summer and wintertime for all EU Member States * Abolishing the switching for all EU Member States? First, why the fuck should EU interfere with the States chosen time? "Evidence suggests"... uh, what? Any sentence starting this way is probably bullshit. Why the heck is such a minor detail point so important for the "proper functioning"? It has been functioning without troubles for decades. Why on Earth should the "internal market" be the SINGLE reason stated for imposing such changes? So, what's next : "In order to ensure such common rules also for the future". Er... what? We already jumped to the point where we agreed on everything said before. No we didn't! Then the only choices are both "for all EU Member states". There is no "why should I tell the XXians how they should handle their time, let them use what they fancy, it is such a minor detail". ------------ Every single sentence, every single word in this question was politically loaded, yet falsely presented as taken for granted. EU propaganda in a nutshell, always presented as the only, obvious, natural, reasonable, choice.

mrweasel 8y ago

It may seem like it would be better, but the russians actually tried it, and it turns out that's it's not. The argument in Russia was that permanent summer time cause stress and health issues (https://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/russia-abandons-permanent-summer-time.html https://www.timeanddate.com/news/time/russia-abandons-perman...). The part that's weird is that everyone have arguments as to why DST would be better, but the country that actually tried it switch to permanent winter time after few years. Between 1948 and 1981 Denmark didn't even have summer time and Germany managed just fine without DST from 1949 to 1980, so why can't we go back to not having it?

madcaptenor 8y ago

And this is probably why Iceland doesn't have DST - no point in having it that far north. (Although they're on UTC year-round when they're "naturally" on the western edge of UTC-1, so you could say they have year-round DST.)