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It's worth noting that Greece, Cyprus, Malta and in a lesser extent Italy were the only ones supporting the existing system. All the other countries are clearly

It's worth noting that Greece, Cyprus, Malta and in a lesser extent Italy were the only ones supporting the existing system. All the other countries are clearly in favor of abolishing the change. Strange that Spain and Portugal didn't vote like the remaining southern EU countries. Here is the official link to the preliminary results: http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-5302_en.htm http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-5302_en.htm Not a lot of people participated, less than 1%, so the results should be taken with a grain of salt.

Piskvorrr 8y ago
4.6 million people is "not a lot"?
- contravariant 8y ago
  Not as much as the 512.6 million it might affect.
  - Piskvorrr 8y ago
    Well, it's representative enough for an opinion poll, which this was.
    - contravariant 8y ago
      If it were truly random it would be more than enough even, the real problem here is bias which is hard to rule out. Frankly if you could guarantee a truly random sample you wouldn't need much more than a few thousand people to give their vote on pretty much anything, but the reason we still have elections is because it's nigh impossible to rule out any kind of bias.
      - Piskvorrr 8y ago
        Sure. Which is, again, why this was not an election - the resulting proposal, if any, will need to be ratified by each of the member states. (Which is where elections, referenda etc. come in)
        Piskvorrr 8y ago
        Et voila: "How and when would these changes become effective? The European Commission's proposal will now go to the European Parliament and the Council for their agreement. To allow for a smooth transition, under the Commission's proposal each Member State would notify by April 2019 whether it intends to apply permanent summer- or wintertime. The last mandatory change to summertime would take place on Sunday 31 March 2019. After this, the Member States wishing to permanently switch back to wintertime would still be able to make one last seasonal clock change on Sunday 27 October 2019. Following that date, seasonal clock changes would no longer be possible. This timeline is conditional on the European Parliament and the Council adopting the Commission's proposal by March 2019 at the latest." http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-5709_en.htm http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-5709_en.htm

Piskvorrr 8y ago

4.6 million people is "not a lot"?

contravariant 8y ago
Not as much as the 512.6 million it might affect.
- Piskvorrr 8y ago
  Well, it's representative enough for an opinion poll, which this was.
  - contravariant 8y ago
    If it were truly random it would be more than enough even, the real problem here is bias which is hard to rule out. Frankly if you could guarantee a truly random sample you wouldn't need much more than a few thousand people to give their vote on pretty much anything, but the reason we still have elections is because it's nigh impossible to rule out any kind of bias.
    - Piskvorrr 8y ago
      Sure. Which is, again, why this was not an election - the resulting proposal, if any, will need to be ratified by each of the member states. (Which is where elections, referenda etc. come in)
      - Piskvorrr 8y ago
        Et voila: "How and when would these changes become effective? The European Commission's proposal will now go to the European Parliament and the Council for their agreement. To allow for a smooth transition, under the Commission's proposal each Member State would notify by April 2019 whether it intends to apply permanent summer- or wintertime. The last mandatory change to summertime would take place on Sunday 31 March 2019. After this, the Member States wishing to permanently switch back to wintertime would still be able to make one last seasonal clock change on Sunday 27 October 2019. Following that date, seasonal clock changes would no longer be possible. This timeline is conditional on the European Parliament and the Council adopting the Commission's proposal by March 2019 at the latest." http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-5709_en.htm http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-18-5709_en.htm