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It's not even true of places like Florida, where the vast majority of us prefer daylight savings time. >State Sen. Greg Steube, who sponsored the bill, said th

It's not even true of places like Florida, where the vast majority of us prefer daylight savings time. >State Sen. Greg Steube, who sponsored the bill, said that the idea of year-round daylight time has enormous support among Floridians. "I've heard from mayors across the state that it's going to save them money because they don't have to light their softball fields at night," Steube said, according to the Miami Herald. "I can't tell you how many people have come up to me who have said even my high school-age kid, it's hard to get him up in the morning when we fall back the clocks." https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/08/591925587/sunshine-daydream-florida-bill-would-make-daylight-saving-time-year-round https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/08/591925587...

Aaargh20318 8y ago
> It's not even true of places like Florida, where the vast majority of us prefer daylight savings time. Except the sun goes down a LOT earlier in Florida which is much closer to the equator than northern Europe. In summer the sun doesn't go down until after 10PM here. If you want to have a BBQ and not burn alive while doing it, you have to start at 22:30 at the earliest. That's just not a realistic time if you have to work the next day. edit: Also, in Florida the days get shorter during the summer, over here they get longer.
- ajmurmann 8y ago
  Not only northern Europe. Rome is as far north as NYC.
  - pmontra 8y ago
    For what it matters Rome is north of NYC. NYC is slightly to the south of Naples. As hot in summer, much colder in winter.
    - ajmurmann 8y ago
      The climate is different but it highlights the district in daylight variance.
- kgwgk 8y ago
  > edit: Also, in Florida the days get shorter during the summer, over here they get longer. I'm not sure what do you mean, but it doesn't seem right. Either the days in Florida get longer during the summer relative to the winter, as they do in Europe, or the days in Florida get shorter as the summer advances, as they do in Europe (the longest day everywhere in the Northern hemisphere is around June 21).
- grasshopperpurp 8y ago
  >In summer the sun doesn't go down until after 10PM here. Ah, I was just thinking about the heat, but that's a good point. >edit: Also, in Florida the days get shorter during the summer, over here they get longer. No they don't. Like other places in the northern hemisphere, the summer solstice is the longest day of the year in Florida - and the winter solstice is the shortest.
- saltcured 8y ago
  I believe all of Florida is north of the tropics, so no you don't get the interesting effect of the sun swinging north of you in mid June. You might have a sense of earlier dusk during the part of the year that has frequent cloud cover and afternoon thunderstorms. When you are in the real tropics, that adds a surprising twist to the experience of seasons, including disorientation when your shadow points towards the opposite pole for part of the year!
ajmurmann 8y ago
The hard to get up in the morning is the worst argument for DST ever. It's hard to get up because we are disputing the rhythm by changing the clock around. It's like saying "The Japanese time zone is terrible. Everytime I traveled there I get jet lag."
- swsieber 8y ago
  It's not like saying that at all. Live in a non-DST timezone, and nothings bad. Live in a timezone observing DST and you get the time shift twice a year, without fail. I'd say it's more like saying - "Travelling is terrible because I hate jet lag". I agree that it's not a very good argument. I'd say a better one that it's a weaker version of is: DST kills people: https://www.businessinsider.com/daylight-saving-time-is-deadly-2018-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/daylight-saving-time-is-dead...

Aaargh20318 8y ago

> It's not even true of places like Florida, where the vast majority of us prefer daylight savings time. Except the sun goes down a LOT earlier in Florida which is much closer to the equator than northern Europe. In summer the sun doesn't go down until after 10PM here. If you want to have a BBQ and not burn alive while doing it, you have to start at 22:30 at the earliest. That's just not a realistic time if you have to work the next day. edit: Also, in Florida the days get shorter during the summer, over here they get longer.

ajmurmann 8y ago
Not only northern Europe. Rome is as far north as NYC.
- pmontra 8y ago
  For what it matters Rome is north of NYC. NYC is slightly to the south of Naples. As hot in summer, much colder in winter.
  - ajmurmann 8y ago
    The climate is different but it highlights the district in daylight variance.
kgwgk 8y ago
> edit: Also, in Florida the days get shorter during the summer, over here they get longer. I'm not sure what do you mean, but it doesn't seem right. Either the days in Florida get longer during the summer relative to the winter, as they do in Europe, or the days in Florida get shorter as the summer advances, as they do in Europe (the longest day everywhere in the Northern hemisphere is around June 21).
grasshopperpurp 8y ago
>In summer the sun doesn't go down until after 10PM here. Ah, I was just thinking about the heat, but that's a good point. >edit: Also, in Florida the days get shorter during the summer, over here they get longer. No they don't. Like other places in the northern hemisphere, the summer solstice is the longest day of the year in Florida - and the winter solstice is the shortest.
saltcured 8y ago
I believe all of Florida is north of the tropics, so no you don't get the interesting effect of the sun swinging north of you in mid June. You might have a sense of earlier dusk during the part of the year that has frequent cloud cover and afternoon thunderstorms. When you are in the real tropics, that adds a surprising twist to the experience of seasons, including disorientation when your shadow points towards the opposite pole for part of the year!

ajmurmann 8y ago

The hard to get up in the morning is the worst argument for DST ever. It's hard to get up because we are disputing the rhythm by changing the clock around. It's like saying "The Japanese time zone is terrible. Everytime I traveled there I get jet lag."

swsieber 8y ago
It's not like saying that at all. Live in a non-DST timezone, and nothings bad. Live in a timezone observing DST and you get the time shift twice a year, without fail. I'd say it's more like saying - "Travelling is terrible because I hate jet lag". I agree that it's not a very good argument. I'd say a better one that it's a weaker version of is: DST kills people: https://www.businessinsider.com/daylight-saving-time-is-deadly-2018-3 https://www.businessinsider.com/daylight-saving-time-is-dead...