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What makes you think MC and Google aren't doing the same thing in Europe?

by Tharkun 8y ago

foepys 8y ago
If they do, I hope they get caught and have to pay 4% of their global revenue under GDPR.
ionised 8y ago
There are laws against them doing this in Europe.
- dagw 8y ago
  Bloody nanny state socialists and their business destroying government overreach. No wonder they'll never catch up with Silicon Valley. /s
- Tharkun 8y ago
  Are you referring to GDPR? As far as I can tell, the data is allegedly anonymous, so not subject to GDPR. Even if it weren't, Google doesn't exactly have a good track record of respecting privacy or privacy related laws. They've been known to "accidentally" harvest wifi traffic in bulk. They drive spy cars around taking pictures or everything and everyone.
  - codedokode 8y ago
    If they were anonymous Google wouldn't be able to match purchases against ad views or let users opt out. I suppose they are just exchanging something like a hash from customer data, so technically Google doesn't get personal information.
  - jeltz 8y ago
    The first GDPR suits against Google will be interesting. Nobody knows yet exactly what is banned under the GDPR.
Aaargh20318 8y ago
This is about linking real-world credit-card payments to your online identity. People in Europe don't use credit cards offline.
- ginko 8y ago
  >People in Europe don't use credit cards offline. That's a huge over-generalization. It's true that cash is king in Germany for instance, but Scandinavians pay almost exclusively by card.
  - Aaargh20318 8y ago
    > It's true that cash is king in Germany for instance, Sure, Germany is a bit behind the times when it comes to paying with plastic. > but Scandinavians pay almost exclusively by card Same goes for the Netherlands where I live, but we don't pay by credit card, we pay by debit card.
    - mortehu 8y ago
      To clarify, in US even debit cards are primarily Visa or Mastercard, whereas in Europe they're not. E.g. Norway uses BankAxept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BankAxept https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BankAxept
      - jeltz 8y ago
        And in Sweden we use Mastercard and Visa.
  - KozmoNau7 8y ago
    Danish person here. We mostly pay by Dankort, which is the standard national debit card, I would bet more than 99% of card payments here are direct debit.
    - Gruklair 8y ago
      And with Dankort, you have the additional pleasure of being spied on by tabloid news papers.

What makes you think MC and Google aren't doing the same thing in Europe?

foepys 8y ago

If they do, I hope they get caught and have to pay 4% of their global revenue under GDPR.

ionised 8y ago

There are laws against them doing this in Europe.

dagw 8y ago
Bloody nanny state socialists and their business destroying government overreach. No wonder they'll never catch up with Silicon Valley. /s
Tharkun 8y ago
Are you referring to GDPR? As far as I can tell, the data is allegedly anonymous, so not subject to GDPR. Even if it weren't, Google doesn't exactly have a good track record of respecting privacy or privacy related laws. They've been known to "accidentally" harvest wifi traffic in bulk. They drive spy cars around taking pictures or everything and everyone.
- codedokode 8y ago
  If they were anonymous Google wouldn't be able to match purchases against ad views or let users opt out. I suppose they are just exchanging something like a hash from customer data, so technically Google doesn't get personal information.
- jeltz 8y ago
  The first GDPR suits against Google will be interesting. Nobody knows yet exactly what is banned under the GDPR.

Aaargh20318 8y ago

This is about linking real-world credit-card payments to your online identity. People in Europe don't use credit cards offline.

ginko 8y ago
>People in Europe don't use credit cards offline. That's a huge over-generalization. It's true that cash is king in Germany for instance, but Scandinavians pay almost exclusively by card.
- Aaargh20318 8y ago
  > It's true that cash is king in Germany for instance, Sure, Germany is a bit behind the times when it comes to paying with plastic. > but Scandinavians pay almost exclusively by card Same goes for the Netherlands where I live, but we don't pay by credit card, we pay by debit card.
  - mortehu 8y ago
    To clarify, in US even debit cards are primarily Visa or Mastercard, whereas in Europe they're not. E.g. Norway uses BankAxept: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BankAxept https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BankAxept
    - jeltz 8y ago
      And in Sweden we use Mastercard and Visa.
- KozmoNau7 8y ago
  Danish person here. We mostly pay by Dankort, which is the standard national debit card, I would bet more than 99% of card payments here are direct debit.
  - Gruklair 8y ago
    And with Dankort, you have the additional pleasure of being spied on by tabloid news papers.