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You are absolutely right. Dockless mobility uses public space for the benefit of a private corporation. I cycle to work and there is not a single day where I se

You are absolutely right. Dockless mobility uses public space for the benefit of a private corporation. I cycle to work and there is not a single day where I see an OfO bike or Grab bike parked in the most annoying places. Maybe "society" is not ready for dockless and we need to create norms and rules of behavior (i.e., enforce that with fines)

s0rce 8y ago
While I agree that this is an issues, in my opinion it is exceedingly minor, especially in comparison to the amount of cars illegally stopped or parked that I see while biking. In fact I had to merge into traffic a few times to go around tonight. A few bikes haphazardly placed is nothing more than a mild nuisance. Never mind the homeless camps and other litter everywhere in the bay area.
- mavhc 8y ago
  Cars, parked badly, you're on the right track..... homeless people = litter?, oh dear.
  - s0rce 8y ago
    Homeless people are obviously not litter, and think its a bit of an unfair exaggeration to read my comment in that way, however, I do see how you could infer that. Regardless, in my experience the camps have tons of trash/litter around. It seems not that surprising as my house would have lots of trash if I didn't have garbage collection service. Just drive to some of the camps in Oakland/Berkeley.
- almost_usual 8y ago
  Wonder how many of those illegally stopped cars are Ubers and Lyfts...
  - s0rce 8y ago
    Some, I've posted about this before but in many areas of Oakland parking is so inexpensive/free that cars are parked basically indefinitely. If you then want to just run into the bank or pick up take out (and you are driving) your options are drive around for a long time to find a spot, stop in the bike lane or just leave your car in the middle of the road. As someone who drives and cycles routinely I understand the choice. In Berkeley parking is time limited and expensive and you can usual find a spot to run in quickly. I don't mind ubers quickly stopping to drop someone off on a non-separated bike lane as long as they don't cut people off and signal and merge safely. I'm happy to wait behind them or merge around just like a car would had they stopped in the main traffic lane. We can share the infrastructure, just don't leave your car in the bike lane!
stale2002 8y ago
Well guess what, every time you personally park your bike outside, or even bike on the road, you are using public space for your own private benefit. Why's that ok? You are a private individual. You are using public space for private benefit, instead of , I don't know, letting the needy homeless use it.
rorykoehler 8y ago
If the state have a problem with that maybe they should roll their own dockless solutions as part of their public transport strategy. Seriously, first they design cities so that 90% must drive to get anywhere and then they ban companies who bring solutions. Regressive and unacceptable.

s0rce 8y ago

While I agree that this is an issues, in my opinion it is exceedingly minor, especially in comparison to the amount of cars illegally stopped or parked that I see while biking. In fact I had to merge into traffic a few times to go around tonight. A few bikes haphazardly placed is nothing more than a mild nuisance. Never mind the homeless camps and other litter everywhere in the bay area.

mavhc 8y ago
Cars, parked badly, you're on the right track..... homeless people = litter?, oh dear.
- s0rce 8y ago
  Homeless people are obviously not litter, and think its a bit of an unfair exaggeration to read my comment in that way, however, I do see how you could infer that. Regardless, in my experience the camps have tons of trash/litter around. It seems not that surprising as my house would have lots of trash if I didn't have garbage collection service. Just drive to some of the camps in Oakland/Berkeley.
almost_usual 8y ago
Wonder how many of those illegally stopped cars are Ubers and Lyfts...
- s0rce 8y ago
  Some, I've posted about this before but in many areas of Oakland parking is so inexpensive/free that cars are parked basically indefinitely. If you then want to just run into the bank or pick up take out (and you are driving) your options are drive around for a long time to find a spot, stop in the bike lane or just leave your car in the middle of the road. As someone who drives and cycles routinely I understand the choice. In Berkeley parking is time limited and expensive and you can usual find a spot to run in quickly. I don't mind ubers quickly stopping to drop someone off on a non-separated bike lane as long as they don't cut people off and signal and merge safely. I'm happy to wait behind them or merge around just like a car would had they stopped in the main traffic lane. We can share the infrastructure, just don't leave your car in the bike lane!

stale2002 8y ago

Well guess what, every time you personally park your bike outside, or even bike on the road, you are using public space for your own private benefit. Why's that ok? You are a private individual. You are using public space for private benefit, instead of , I don't know, letting the needy homeless use it.

rorykoehler 8y ago

If the state have a problem with that maybe they should roll their own dockless solutions as part of their public transport strategy. Seriously, first they design cities so that 90% must drive to get anywhere and then they ban companies who bring solutions. Regressive and unacceptable.