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What law did they break?

by jonny_eh 8y ago

dmix 8y ago
Whatever law it may be it was most certainly not designed in the era of these scooters being a thing.
- trhway 8y ago
  unfortunately the city itself - for example streets, sidewalks, etc. - also wasn't designed in the era of these scooters being a thing.
LeoPanthera 8y ago
Use of powered vehicles on sidewalks is illegal, as is blocking entrances with vehicles. The city accused Bird and Lime of doing both.
- baddox 8y ago
  In that case, Toyota is currently breaking that law on my street.
  - mc32 8y ago
    For that to be analogous, it would have to be "Enterprise" or "Hertz" doing it. Not Toyota. If Hertz (Or CityCarShare) just went ahead and just put their cars willy-nilly anywhere they wanted, then you'd have a point.
  - jerkstate 8y ago
    Maybe this would all be fixed if every Bird scooter had a license plate and you needed to be licensed to drive them? In contrast to Bird, Scoot hasn't attracted that much criticism in SF despite being a pretty similar service.
- prepend 8y ago
  That is a dumb law that was made when motorcycles were the only vehicles competing inside walks. There is very little traffic on sidewalks and using it for pedestrians and scooters and bicycles is much better. Especially considering that cyclists can pause or go around pedestrians when necessary. Having an absolute law rather than an adaptive is not useful to the community.
  - topmonk 8y ago
    Tell that to the wheelchair bound person who now have to deal with a scooter blocking their path every 20 yards.
    - jonny_eh 8y ago
      I encounter cars blocking sidewalks all the time. Cars haven't been banned yet.
    - prepend 8y ago
      I use a wheelchair. It would certainly suck to have a scooter blocking my path. But I don’t think scooters parked in the sidewalk apply to me very much. If we’re moving, they or I move around each other.
  - saas_co_de 8y ago
    > There is very little traffic on sidewalks lol. i guess the plebs who can't afford uber don't count as people. SF sidewalks have seem pretty packed to me whenever I am there.
curun1r 8y ago
The ADA, for one. Scooters left haphazardly in the middle of sidewalks are a menace to blind people.

What law did they break?

dmix 8y ago

Whatever law it may be it was most certainly not designed in the era of these scooters being a thing.

trhway 8y ago
unfortunately the city itself - for example streets, sidewalks, etc. - also wasn't designed in the era of these scooters being a thing.

LeoPanthera 8y ago

Use of powered vehicles on sidewalks is illegal, as is blocking entrances with vehicles. The city accused Bird and Lime of doing both.

baddox 8y ago
In that case, Toyota is currently breaking that law on my street.
- mc32 8y ago
  For that to be analogous, it would have to be "Enterprise" or "Hertz" doing it. Not Toyota. If Hertz (Or CityCarShare) just went ahead and just put their cars willy-nilly anywhere they wanted, then you'd have a point.
- jerkstate 8y ago
  Maybe this would all be fixed if every Bird scooter had a license plate and you needed to be licensed to drive them? In contrast to Bird, Scoot hasn't attracted that much criticism in SF despite being a pretty similar service.
prepend 8y ago
That is a dumb law that was made when motorcycles were the only vehicles competing inside walks. There is very little traffic on sidewalks and using it for pedestrians and scooters and bicycles is much better. Especially considering that cyclists can pause or go around pedestrians when necessary. Having an absolute law rather than an adaptive is not useful to the community.
- topmonk 8y ago
  Tell that to the wheelchair bound person who now have to deal with a scooter blocking their path every 20 yards.
  - jonny_eh 8y ago
    I encounter cars blocking sidewalks all the time. Cars haven't been banned yet.
  - prepend 8y ago
    I use a wheelchair. It would certainly suck to have a scooter blocking my path. But I don’t think scooters parked in the sidewalk apply to me very much. If we’re moving, they or I move around each other.
- saas_co_de 8y ago
  > There is very little traffic on sidewalks lol. i guess the plebs who can't afford uber don't count as people. SF sidewalks have seem pretty packed to me whenever I am there.

curun1r 8y ago

The ADA, for one. Scooters left haphazardly in the middle of sidewalks are a menace to blind people.