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> When I import my music folder, iTunes copies all the files to it's own private directories, This is optional and IIRC, not on by default. I have to add: >

by tvon 16y ago

> When I import my music folder, iTunes copies all the files to it's own private directories, This is optional and IIRC, not on by default. I have to add: > Thanks, but my music is already arranged the way I like. This just baffles me. Why would you ever manually arrange your music? I used to do this when I use Linux because I basically had to if I wanted to browse it in any sane way, but I much prefer having some app do it for me. It just strikes me as one of the many things that my computer can do well, so it should do it. > iTunes doesn't play flac or ogg. And when I rip a CD, it wants to save it in some proprietary flac-like format (which, as far as I know, does not work on non-macs). I have no clue about non-macs (iTunes generally sucks in Windows IMO) so I can't really help, but in OSX if you have the codec installed, it will work. > I enjoy controlling my music from a phone/tablet/other computer. Google around, there are a lot of remotes for iTunes (free one from Apple for iOS, one for android here: http://dacp.jsharkey.org/ http://dacp.jsharkey.org/). iTunes is one of the main things that I'd miss if I switched to Linux full-time.

yummyfajitas 16y ago
This just baffles me. Why would you ever manually arrange your music? I used to do this when I use Linux because I basically had to if I wanted to browse it in any sane way, but I much prefer having some app do it for me. It just strikes me as one of the many things that my computer can do well, so it should do it. It is more or less automatically arranged (by grip). I make the occasional tweak when grip screws up. As far as browsing goes, mpd supports all of that based on file metadata. Having a filesystem arrangement under my control is useful for this purpose: $ cp /misc/music/Johnny_Cash/American*/* /media/generic_non_ipod_music_player/ Since I have more music than normally fits on a portable player, this step is unavoidable (I can't just copy everything over). (Actually there is another step involved since I store music as lossless flac files, which most portables don't play. See http://github.com/stucchio/Mp3FS http://github.com/stucchio/Mp3FS for details.)
- djacobs 16y ago
  > Having a filesystem arrangement under my control is useful for this purpose: > $ cp /misc/music/Johnny_Cash/American/ /media/generic_non_ipod_music_player/ Why can't you do this with iTunes' automatic arrangement? What am I missing? I've found that iTunes organizes music in a very reasonable way > 90% of the time. Added benefit: When I add title/album/artist metadata (say it was missing or incorrect when I imported it into iTunes), the hierarchy and filenames automatically rearrange and rename themselves, no intervention on my part required.
- tvon 16y ago
  $ cp /misc/music/Johnny_Cash/American*/* /media/generic_non_ipod_music_player/ You lose me there. Why would you want to manually copy individual directories to your music player? How do you handle playlists, or worse, smart playlists? I'd go insane if I had to manually move files over like this.
  - yummyfajitas 16y ago
    $ cp_playlist.py countryfun /media/non_ipod_player <Tab> <Enter> As I said, I can't sync iTunes to my mp3 player since a) it's not an iPod due to this anti-feature http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1202 http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1202 and b) my music doesn't fit.
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koeselitz 16y ago
Some people like to manually arrange files they way they'd like to. Like, for example, many of us developers. It's fine that some people don't want to, and I don't think it means much beyond personal preferences; but it isn't exactly astounding that developers might sometimes feel plenty comfortable manipulating files manually. Besides, yes, it's easier than people think moving files around via command. And when I do it by command, I know what I did, so I can see what happened, and it's all under my control.

by tvon 16y ago

yummyfajitas 16y ago

This just baffles me. Why would you ever manually arrange your music? I used to do this when I use Linux because I basically had to if I wanted to browse it in any sane way, but I much prefer having some app do it for me. It just strikes me as one of the many things that my computer can do well, so it should do it. It is more or less automatically arranged (by grip). I make the occasional tweak when grip screws up. As far as browsing goes, mpd supports all of that based on file metadata. Having a filesystem arrangement under my control is useful for this purpose: $ cp /misc/music/Johnny_Cash/American*/* /media/generic_non_ipod_music_player/ Since I have more music than normally fits on a portable player, this step is unavoidable (I can't just copy everything over). (Actually there is another step involved since I store music as lossless flac files, which most portables don't play. See http://github.com/stucchio/Mp3FS http://github.com/stucchio/Mp3FS for details.)

djacobs 16y ago
> Having a filesystem arrangement under my control is useful for this purpose: > $ cp /misc/music/Johnny_Cash/American/ /media/generic_non_ipod_music_player/ Why can't you do this with iTunes' automatic arrangement? What am I missing? I've found that iTunes organizes music in a very reasonable way > 90% of the time. Added benefit: When I add title/album/artist metadata (say it was missing or incorrect when I imported it into iTunes), the hierarchy and filenames automatically rearrange and rename themselves, no intervention on my part required.
tvon 16y ago
$ cp /misc/music/Johnny_Cash/American*/* /media/generic_non_ipod_music_player/ You lose me there. Why would you want to manually copy individual directories to your music player? How do you handle playlists, or worse, smart playlists? I'd go insane if I had to manually move files over like this.
- yummyfajitas 16y ago
  $ cp_playlist.py countryfun /media/non_ipod_player <Tab> <Enter> As I said, I can't sync iTunes to my mp3 player since a) it's not an iPod due to this anti-feature http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1202 http://support.apple.com/kb/ht1202 and b) my music doesn't fit.
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koeselitz 16y ago

Some people like to manually arrange files they way they'd like to. Like, for example, many of us developers. It's fine that some people don't want to, and I don't think it means much beyond personal preferences; but it isn't exactly astounding that developers might sometimes feel plenty comfortable manipulating files manually. Besides, yes, it's easier than people think moving files around via command. And when I do it by command, I know what I did, so I can see what happened, and it's all under my control.