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OSM condemns recent anti-semitic vandalism

6 points by chippy 8y ago

aaron695 8y ago
What a sad world that they just couldn't have called it "vandalism" and moved on. Or far better, just reverted it and moved on. Now the trolls/SJW's will have their pitchforks out to find other political vandalism that didn't get this attention, proving OSM doesn't care about 'that' issue. It also tipped off the trolls what works best and how it's possible. People need to stop politicising everything. The net has trolls. Deal with it. This post doesn't deal with vandals, it empowered them if anything, delete and move on. On a side note since it's too late already I'd also be interested if the average Jew in New York found the name change to "Jewtropolis" funny or anti-semitic. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/08/data-vandal-changes-name-of-new-york-city-to-jewtropolis-across-multiple-apps/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/08/data-... /r/Judaism seems to find it funny. Someone really needs to work out how to actually compare fake outrage to real outrage - https://www.reddit.com/r/Judaism/comments/9bl5vi/snapchat_renames_new_york_jewtroplis/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Judaism/comments/9bl5vi/snapchat_re...
firic 8y ago
I'm Jewish so I can give you my point of view, but there are many other people who may feel differently. For me this is simply a troll doing something that he thinks is funny and slightly inconveniences the mods at osm. Calling certain areas "Jewish" is not antisemitic in the way that is in any way dangerous. Here is a joke from Jews about how Teaneck is Jewish [1], nothing antisemitic about that. Here is a joke about Israel being Jewish [2] . But lets just say that this was antisemitic. So what? Trolls do offensive things online all the time. OSM was properly alerted to it and quickly reverted it. [1] http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3613/1194/1600/teaneck.jpg http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3613/1194/1600/teaneck.jp... [2] https://johnjohns1.fjcdn.com/pictures/ish+conspiracy+could+mozart+still+be+alive_b9dcf9_4771899.jpg https://johnjohns1.fjcdn.com/pictures/ish+conspiracy+could+m...
- rmc 8y ago
  There were a few other edits by the same person which were a little more extreme and anti-semetic
  - firic 8y ago
    Oh, well then that might change my opinion. I will try to find a better source when I have some time. I find it stage that the osm letter didn't mention exactly what happened.
    - rmc 8y ago
      > the osm letter didn't mention exactly what happened. What do you mean? It's quite clear what happened. Someone logged into OSM, they edited the "place node" for New York and changed the name.
      - firic 8y ago
        That is what I thought, but you replied saying that he made other edits ... What happened? Did he just change the title (not so bad) or did he do something worse?
        rmc 8y ago
        They changed the name of some other things. Roads in New York being renamed after a certain dictator with a small moustach. That kind of thing.

6 points by chippy 8y ago

What a sad world that they just couldn't have called it "vandalism" and moved on. Or far better, just reverted it and moved on. Now the trolls/SJW's will have their pitchforks out to find other political vandalism that didn't get this attention, proving OSM doesn't care about 'that' issue. It also tipped off the trolls what works best and how it's possible. People need to stop politicising everything. The net has trolls. Deal with it. This post doesn't deal with vandals, it empowered them if anything, delete and move on. On a side note since it's too late already I'd also be interested if the average Jew in New York found the name change to "Jewtropolis" funny or anti-semitic. https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/08/data-vandal-changes-name-of-new-york-city-to-jewtropolis-across-multiple-apps/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2018/08/data-... /r/Judaism seems to find it funny. Someone really needs to work out how to actually compare fake outrage to real outrage - https://www.reddit.com/r/Judaism/comments/9bl5vi/snapchat_renames_new_york_jewtroplis/ https://www.reddit.com/r/Judaism/comments/9bl5vi/snapchat_re...

firic 8y ago

I'm Jewish so I can give you my point of view, but there are many other people who may feel differently. For me this is simply a troll doing something that he thinks is funny and slightly inconveniences the mods at osm. Calling certain areas "Jewish" is not antisemitic in the way that is in any way dangerous. Here is a joke from Jews about how Teaneck is Jewish [1], nothing antisemitic about that. Here is a joke about Israel being Jewish [2] . But lets just say that this was antisemitic. So what? Trolls do offensive things online all the time. OSM was properly alerted to it and quickly reverted it. [1] http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3613/1194/1600/teaneck.jpg http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/3613/1194/1600/teaneck.jp... [2] https://johnjohns1.fjcdn.com/pictures/ish+conspiracy+could+mozart+still+be+alive_b9dcf9_4771899.jpg https://johnjohns1.fjcdn.com/pictures/ish+conspiracy+could+m...

rmc 8y ago
There were a few other edits by the same person which were a little more extreme and anti-semetic
- firic 8y ago
  Oh, well then that might change my opinion. I will try to find a better source when I have some time. I find it stage that the osm letter didn't mention exactly what happened.
  - rmc 8y ago
    > the osm letter didn't mention exactly what happened. What do you mean? It's quite clear what happened. Someone logged into OSM, they edited the "place node" for New York and changed the name.
    - firic 8y ago
      That is what I thought, but you replied saying that he made other edits ... What happened? Did he just change the title (not so bad) or did he do something worse?
      - rmc 8y ago
        They changed the name of some other things. Roads in New York being renamed after a certain dictator with a small moustach. That kind of thing.