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This sort of thing is why I sort of hate energy star everything. Take dishwashers, for example. You can regulate the energy and water usage all you want, but it
by twtw 8y ago
This sort of thing is why I sort of hate energy star everything. Take dishwashers, for example. You can regulate the energy and water usage all you want, but it long ago got to the point where dishwashers that meet regulations basically fail to clean the dishes. Which is fine, it just causes the consumer to wash the dishes by hand either instead of or in addition to using the dishwasher. So now the dishwasher uses less energy/water, but the whole process uses net more water and takes more time.
- organsnyder 8y agoThat hasn't been my experience at all. Our new Bosch dishwasher is exceedingly more effective than the water-guzzler it replaced.
- joe5150 8y agomy experience with going from a late-90s model dishwasher to a relatively fancy brand new one last year is that it cleans better, but is slower and simply doesn't dry the dishes at all, and the standing water can leave residues on the dishes if I don't take them all out and towel dry them right away
- Angostura 8y agoOur Bosch washer on ECO setting takes a long time but washes very well. Not a problem if you are setting it going at bed time.
- stephengillie 8y agoMy new AC unit cools very effectively, and is the lowest energy usage of its category.
- sandworm101 8y agoIm doing my washing today. Run it once with detergent, then again without. The first cycle doesnt use enough water to rinse out the soap. I am running off a solar-powered well. I have a literally unlimited green water supply, but must still suffer a watersaving washing machine. Im tempted to crack it open and disable the relevant sensor.
- ulkhf 8y agoMy Miele dishwasher works very well.
- jwr 8y agoOk, as a data point: I have a (new) Bosch dishwasher here in CA. The "Auto" wash cycle takes 2h20 and I can hear the unit flush the water down the drain after initial rinse. My Bosch dishwasher in Europe does the Auto cycle in less than 90 minutes on a single change of water. I think it's about different consumer expectations: it the US it seems people don't care so much about energy/water consumption, so other things matter. BTW, both dishwashers get things done, the dishes do come out clean.