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> I really don't get the hate this is receiving It seems Musk went the usual hype wave way. Once it was cool to like things he does. Now it is cool to hate wha

> I really don't get the hate this is receiving It seems Musk went the usual hype wave way. Once it was cool to like things he does. Now it is cool to hate what he does. It's not helping that his behavior on twitter reinforced that trend but it was one already before that.

dunpeal 8y ago
Pretty much. For a while he could do no wrong. Now he can do no right. Typical overhype/crash cycle.
Fnoord 8y ago
That's akin to people saying the truth lies in the middle, a fallacy [1]. If you want to reach a conclusion you need to analyse all the situations, and figure out if the criticism is warranted yes or no. In case of the pedophile tweet my opinion is that, yes the criticism is warranted. YMMV.. ..but I'm not sure we should have this discussion in this very thread.. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation
- skybrian 8y ago
  Understanding the hype cycle doesn't tell you who is right. It just makes you more skeptical of going along with the hype cycle. In particular, Elon Musk's bad behavior on Twitter doesn't tell us very much about the technical feasibility of building a tunnel, any more than it tells us whether a SpaceX rocket will fly. Mood affiliation might make it seem like it's closely related, but logically it's not.
stephengillie 8y ago
Is it schadenfreude to hate hubris?
Sangermaine 8y ago
No, it’s simply that the honeymoon is over and he’s starting to be treated like any other businessman. That means what was once glossed over as endearing or harmless foibles are now being recognized as the problems they were all along. Musk is having difficulty adjusting to this new situation where he’s not only receiving fawning adulation as some kind of technology messiah anymore.

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> I really don't get the hate this is receiving It seems Musk went the usual hype wave way. Once it was cool to like things he does. Now it is cool to hate wha

by Krasnol 8y ago

dunpeal 8y ago
Pretty much. For a while he could do no wrong. Now he can do no right. Typical overhype/crash cycle.
Fnoord 8y ago
That's akin to people saying the truth lies in the middle, a fallacy [1]. If you want to reach a conclusion you need to analyse all the situations, and figure out if the criticism is warranted yes or no. In case of the pedophile tweet my opinion is that, yes the criticism is warranted. YMMV.. ..but I'm not sure we should have this discussion in this very thread.. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_to_moderation
- skybrian 8y ago
  Understanding the hype cycle doesn't tell you who is right. It just makes you more skeptical of going along with the hype cycle. In particular, Elon Musk's bad behavior on Twitter doesn't tell us very much about the technical feasibility of building a tunnel, any more than it tells us whether a SpaceX rocket will fly. Mood affiliation might make it seem like it's closely related, but logically it's not.
stephengillie 8y ago
Is it schadenfreude to hate hubris?
Sangermaine 8y ago
No, it’s simply that the honeymoon is over and he’s starting to be treated like any other businessman. That means what was once glossed over as endearing or harmless foibles are now being recognized as the problems they were all along. Musk is having difficulty adjusting to this new situation where he’s not only receiving fawning adulation as some kind of technology messiah anymore.