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So your solution to past injustices is systemetized injustices in the other direction?

jessaustin 8y ago
That isn't unheard-of. Tort law, for instance, has something of that flavor. You might respond that we're talking about different time periods. However, that ignores present reality. Right now, minorities face systematized injustice in numerous important ways.
- zacharytelschow 8y ago
  What systematized injustices are you referring to?
  - jessaustin 8y ago
    Please familiarize yourself with basic facts about crime and punishment in USA. After that, pay attention to how those basic facts affect the communities on which they are imposed.
    - zacharytelschow 8y ago
      The basic facts are black people commit more violent crime and have a correspondingly high rate of incarceration. They have a higher prevalence of single parent homes, a contributing factor to academic under achievement (and future crime). Blacks commit abortion at such an alarming rate, in some major US cities there are more black abortions than live births. Screaming racism and demanding reparations (through redistribution of wealth, affirmative action, or other means) isn't going to change the real, underlying problems.
      - jessaustin 8y ago
        Screaming? Who is screaming? Blacks are a small minority; they do not commit "more" crimes of any sort than whites commit. Yet 90% of the victims of Chicago PD violence are black. [0] In other locations like Ferguson MO, poor blacks are a captive gold mine for predatory police, prosecutors, jailers, and municipalities. [1] You cannot possibly not have heard anything about this. Even if you were right (you're not) about the verdicts reached by such a self-evidently flawed system, how could you trust those verdicts? As you would know if you knew any statistics, the average black person, just like the average white person, will never commit a violent crime. But still you clutch your pearls. USA has more people in prison in both percentage and absolute terms, than any other polity on earth in history. Crime of all sorts has dropped for decades. If drug prohibition ended, crime would drop precipitously again. In aggregate, justice would be served if everyone in prison today were pardoned tomorrow. There is no defensible reason, whether that's violent crime or anything else, to fear blacks or any minority. So why do you fear them? You're going to have to answer that one for yourself. [0] https://theintercept.com/2018/08/16/chicago-police-misconduct-racial-disparity/ https://theintercept.com/2018/08/16/chicago-police-misconduc... [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/03/04/the-12-key-highlights-from-the-dojs-scathing-ferguson-report/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/03/0...

That isn't unheard-of. Tort law, for instance, has something of that flavor. You might respond that we're talking about different time periods. However, that ignores present reality. Right now, minorities face systematized injustice in numerous important ways.

zacharytelschow 8y ago
What systematized injustices are you referring to?
- jessaustin 8y ago
  Please familiarize yourself with basic facts about crime and punishment in USA. After that, pay attention to how those basic facts affect the communities on which they are imposed.
  - zacharytelschow 8y ago
    The basic facts are black people commit more violent crime and have a correspondingly high rate of incarceration. They have a higher prevalence of single parent homes, a contributing factor to academic under achievement (and future crime). Blacks commit abortion at such an alarming rate, in some major US cities there are more black abortions than live births. Screaming racism and demanding reparations (through redistribution of wealth, affirmative action, or other means) isn't going to change the real, underlying problems.
    - jessaustin 8y ago
      Screaming? Who is screaming? Blacks are a small minority; they do not commit "more" crimes of any sort than whites commit. Yet 90% of the victims of Chicago PD violence are black. [0] In other locations like Ferguson MO, poor blacks are a captive gold mine for predatory police, prosecutors, jailers, and municipalities. [1] You cannot possibly not have heard anything about this. Even if you were right (you're not) about the verdicts reached by such a self-evidently flawed system, how could you trust those verdicts? As you would know if you knew any statistics, the average black person, just like the average white person, will never commit a violent crime. But still you clutch your pearls. USA has more people in prison in both percentage and absolute terms, than any other polity on earth in history. Crime of all sorts has dropped for decades. If drug prohibition ended, crime would drop precipitously again. In aggregate, justice would be served if everyone in prison today were pardoned tomorrow. There is no defensible reason, whether that's violent crime or anything else, to fear blacks or any minority. So why do you fear them? You're going to have to answer that one for yourself. [0] https://theintercept.com/2018/08/16/chicago-police-misconduct-racial-disparity/ https://theintercept.com/2018/08/16/chicago-police-misconduc... [1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/03/04/the-12-key-highlights-from-the-dojs-scathing-ferguson-report/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/03/0...