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My gut feeling is the US got lucky, with a high chance of drones after the F-35. France (Rafaele) and Germany (Eurofigher) might not be so lucky and need anothe

My gut feeling is the US got lucky, with a high chance of drones after the F-35. France (Rafaele) and Germany (Eurofigher) might not be so lucky and need another manned fighter in between. UK with a F-35 / Eurofighter mix not clear to me.

robin_reala 8y ago
BAE’s building the Tempest for the UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Tempest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Tempest
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- r00fus 8y ago
  From das Wiki: "Tempest will be able to fly unmanned, and use swarming technology to control drones. It will incorporate artificial intelligence deep learning and possess directed-energy weapons.[7][8]" Really? We can't even get self driving cars right and BAE thinks we can have a fighter with lasers that controls a swarm of drones? Going to be an epic letdown when it first rolls off the line.
  - Skunkleton 8y ago
    Unmanned does not mean self-flying. And even if it did, self driving is a much harder problem than self flying. You have rent a swarm of drones today if you wanted to.
    - r00fus 8y ago
      I'm pretty sure they mean like Predator drones not your COTS hoverbots. Doing all that in a tactical/adversarial situation means the likely of catastrophic failure is high.
      - Skunkleton 8y ago
        What do you mean? Are you saying we lack the technology to fly drones in formations?
        r00fus 8y ago
        Do you think formation is all that's required in battle? That sounds like a very sunny-day scenario.
  - hinkley 8y ago
    First demo: two drones will fly into the laser beam, roast themselves, and crash land on something embarrassing.
    - noir_lord 8y ago
      > crash land on something embarrassing. These days that's the whole of the UK (and I say that as someone from England).
  - 15155 8y ago
    > We can't even get self driving cars right Air vehicles are substantially easier to make autonomous than road-borne vehicles that must intermingle with massive numbers of hazards, unpredictable circumstances, laws to abide by, life to preserve. Airspace is, by and large, empty. For where it isn't: it's strictly controlled by other means.

robin_reala 8y ago

BAE’s building the Tempest for the UK: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Tempest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Systems_Tempest

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r00fus 8y ago
From das Wiki: "Tempest will be able to fly unmanned, and use swarming technology to control drones. It will incorporate artificial intelligence deep learning and possess directed-energy weapons.[7][8]" Really? We can't even get self driving cars right and BAE thinks we can have a fighter with lasers that controls a swarm of drones? Going to be an epic letdown when it first rolls off the line.
- Skunkleton 8y ago
  Unmanned does not mean self-flying. And even if it did, self driving is a much harder problem than self flying. You have rent a swarm of drones today if you wanted to.
  - r00fus 8y ago
    I'm pretty sure they mean like Predator drones not your COTS hoverbots. Doing all that in a tactical/adversarial situation means the likely of catastrophic failure is high.
    - Skunkleton 8y ago
      What do you mean? Are you saying we lack the technology to fly drones in formations?
      - r00fus 8y ago
        Do you think formation is all that's required in battle? That sounds like a very sunny-day scenario.
- hinkley 8y ago
  First demo: two drones will fly into the laser beam, roast themselves, and crash land on something embarrassing.
  - noir_lord 8y ago
    > crash land on something embarrassing. These days that's the whole of the UK (and I say that as someone from England).
- 15155 8y ago
  > We can't even get self driving cars right Air vehicles are substantially easier to make autonomous than road-borne vehicles that must intermingle with massive numbers of hazards, unpredictable circumstances, laws to abide by, life to preserve. Airspace is, by and large, empty. For where it isn't: it's strictly controlled by other means.