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Correct me if I'm missing something, but what's the usecase for user submitted data on the map? Do city names change so frequently that they need to be dynamic

• mikestew 8y ago
  Do city names change so frequently that they need to be dynamically updated? Maybe that's the bug. It didn't occur to me until I read your comment [0] that the system could simply accept user-submitted data only above a certain level of detail. It won't eliminate the damage, but it would keep it more contained. [0] OTOH, GIS isn't my day-to-day like it would be if I worked at, say, MapBox.
  • maxerickson 8y ago
    So far human moderation has been a lot cheaper than implementing a reputation system for editing. (after all, someone has to be able to edit things like the label for New York) For instance, there's tens of millions of objects in OSM. Step one to locking some of them is deciding which ones. That alone is a big project.
• lucideer 8y ago
  The use case is that the entire globe is both incompletely mapped and also constantly changing: having it all editable is much easier than differentiating each and every case where some element might or might not change frequently. Such a system of differentiation of map elements by likelihood of change could be good in the long term, but it would be a huge undertaking to classify them.
• Cyclone_ 8y ago
  Helping label things like construction, store closures/openings and like you said local nicknames that might be hard to get data on from an official source.
  • mc32 8y ago
    They should be able to make it such that some attributes or information would require multiple approval levels before taking effect. City name changes, street names, bulding locations, addresses, etc. states of things might not require approvals, say street closed, buolding undervrenovation, etc.
• spectre256 8y ago
  It sounds like building a system on top of OpenStreetMap that is similar to Wikipedia's "protected pages" could be worthwhile. There are legitimate reasons to edit even the information for major world cities (most of them, for example, don't have translations into all major languages yet), but there's little reason to need those changes to be applied immediately.
  • thinkingemote 8y ago
    It's ironic as this vandalism was spotted and reverted in less than 24 hours in OSM. So any improvements and community fixing of vandalism cannot be taken advantage of by Mapbox if they rely on a monthly snapshot.
    • danohuiginn 8y ago
      If importing from OSM (or Wikipedia) it would seem sensible to only accept content that has remained unedited for the last X hours. If something has been staple for a couple of days, it's probably not outrageous vandalism. You'll still need some way to deal with ongoing edit wars -- I'd imagine the mapping of Jerusalem to be prickly, for example. But at least you can tell that content is dangerous and direct your human review in that direction.
    • rmc 8y ago
      > this vandalism was spotted and reverted in less than 24 hours in OSM Even better, less than 2 hours.
• rmc 8y ago
  > what's the usecase for user submitted data on the map? The entire map is user submitted! It's a wiki map. OSM isn't finished (and never will be), so we need to keep adding to it. Even the place node for New York (which was edited here) has dozens of different tags as well as just the "place=city name=New York"