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I'm a German who had a green card in the USA. I gave it up and moved back home to Germany. I value the European lifestyle over the American. I make less but

by mseidl 8y ago

I'm a German who had a green card in the USA. I gave it up and moved back home to Germany. I value the European lifestyle over the American. I make less but I'm happier with being treated well.

bitL 8y ago
I know some Eastern Europeans that told me they were treated like garbage in Germany, but as rockstars in the US. YMMV
- fasja9 8y ago
  That's a cultural thing. German-speaking countries are flooded with slavs so they are not treated so well.
  - naibafo 8y ago
    No that's an asshole/racist thing.
  - Rinzler89 8y ago
    It'a cultural thing to judge pople based on their origin and/or nationality?
- grecy 8y ago
  > treated like garbage in Germany, but as rockstars in the US. YMMV I think the discussion is about society in general (healthcare, education, safety, work hours, leave from work, etc. ), not about how a person is treated in their individual workplace.
  - yostrovs 8y ago
    People make choices based on multiple aspects, not just the political aspects you'd like to focus on. Europeans tend to be nationalist and if you're from the "wrong" nation you feel that. In America you won't be treated with more respect if you're from Denmark and not Poland. So that's an aspect.
    - joelbluminator 8y ago
      Such broad generalizations, its quite lacking in awareness for you to be from a country where Trump is president and still be condescending to Europeans about their nationalism/racism.
      - oh_sigh 8y ago
        Yup, the very fabric of America changed on that awful awful day in November.
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reacharavindh 8y ago
I did not communicate clear enough. I'm NOT saying life in the US is abstractly better than Europe. It is a personal choice, and I quite decided otherwise(moving to Europe from the US). It still does not change the fact that Europe generally pays less than US, and that it would be better for European companies to pay better to attract /retain top talent from the US.
- joelbluminator 8y ago
  You are saying that USA will always be perceived as a superior place to live because of the better pay; the guy is saying that it's not always true because some people value other things (family time, housing affordability, social security network etc), so some talent will prefer to remain/move to europe/canada etc. While I generally tend to agree with you more (unfortunately people go for the money), he has a good point. The U.S isn't for everyone.
- joelbluminator 8y ago
  But I do agree the pay should rise about 20% . by "should" I mean a lot of companies in Germany or Netherlands(where I'm currently at) will lose employees to Dublin/London where salaries are much higher.

by mseidl 8y ago

I'm a German who had a green card in the USA. I gave it up and moved back home to Germany. I value the European lifestyle over the American. I make less but I'm happier with being treated well.

bitL 8y ago

I know some Eastern Europeans that told me they were treated like garbage in Germany, but as rockstars in the US. YMMV

fasja9 8y ago
That's a cultural thing. German-speaking countries are flooded with slavs so they are not treated so well.
- naibafo 8y ago
  No that's an asshole/racist thing.
- Rinzler89 8y ago
  It'a cultural thing to judge pople based on their origin and/or nationality?
grecy 8y ago
> treated like garbage in Germany, but as rockstars in the US. YMMV I think the discussion is about society in general (healthcare, education, safety, work hours, leave from work, etc. ), not about how a person is treated in their individual workplace.
- yostrovs 8y ago
  People make choices based on multiple aspects, not just the political aspects you'd like to focus on. Europeans tend to be nationalist and if you're from the "wrong" nation you feel that. In America you won't be treated with more respect if you're from Denmark and not Poland. So that's an aspect.
  - joelbluminator 8y ago
    Such broad generalizations, its quite lacking in awareness for you to be from a country where Trump is president and still be condescending to Europeans about their nationalism/racism.
    - oh_sigh 8y ago
      Yup, the very fabric of America changed on that awful awful day in November.
  - deleted 8y ago
    [deleted]

reacharavindh 8y ago

I did not communicate clear enough. I'm NOT saying life in the US is abstractly better than Europe. It is a personal choice, and I quite decided otherwise(moving to Europe from the US). It still does not change the fact that Europe generally pays less than US, and that it would be better for European companies to pay better to attract /retain top talent from the US.

joelbluminator 8y ago
You are saying that USA will always be perceived as a superior place to live because of the better pay; the guy is saying that it's not always true because some people value other things (family time, housing affordability, social security network etc), so some talent will prefer to remain/move to europe/canada etc. While I generally tend to agree with you more (unfortunately people go for the money), he has a good point. The U.S isn't for everyone.
joelbluminator 8y ago
But I do agree the pay should rise about 20% . by "should" I mean a lot of companies in Germany or Netherlands(where I'm currently at) will lose employees to Dublin/London where salaries are much higher.