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> You don't have to literally sign something to be bound by an agreement. That's only in the US as far as I know, everywhere else you can't be bound by an agr

> You don't have to literally sign something to be bound by an agreement. That's only in the US as far as I know, everywhere else you can't be bound by an agreement without signing anything.

ckastner 8y ago
This is absolutely false. Regardless of where you are, the majority of the agreements you enter into are not only not signed, they are not even explicit (but rather implied). Case in point: practically everytime you buy something and pay with cash, you have entered into a purchase agreement without having signed anything.
- realusername 8y ago
  These are not terms of use but laws.
  - ckastner 8y ago
    "Terms of Use" are part of the agreement between you and a service provider with regards to the service being provided. That's a civil law contract like any other.
    - realusername 8y ago
      No that's not, and I'm not playing on semantic. Laws are above any terms of use, regardless of what they might say. And not using the product makes you not bound to the terms of use, unlike laws which you have to obey at all times.
      - ckastner 8y ago
        I'm beginning to think that when you said by "not signing anything" earlier, you actually meant "not agreeing to anything", is that correct? > And not using the product makes you not bound to the terms of use, unlike laws which you have to obey at all times. Of course not. But in this specific case, it is safe to assume that he is using the product, or more specifically: he used Slack to develop BetterSlack.
        realusername 8y ago
        Ah yeah sorry, there's been some misunderstanding, I agree with you.
zwaps 8y ago
Well here in the EU you can easily make a contract without signature. Even handshake contracts could be binding. So thats not true.
- mijamo 8y ago
  "in the EU" is false. There are many different countries and several of those do not accept handshake agreements as contracts at all.

> You don't have to literally sign something to be bound by an agreement. That's only in the US as far as I know, everywhere else you can't be bound by an agreement without signing anything.

ckastner 8y ago

This is absolutely false. Regardless of where you are, the majority of the agreements you enter into are not only not signed, they are not even explicit (but rather implied). Case in point: practically everytime you buy something and pay with cash, you have entered into a purchase agreement without having signed anything.

realusername 8y ago
These are not terms of use but laws.
- ckastner 8y ago
  "Terms of Use" are part of the agreement between you and a service provider with regards to the service being provided. That's a civil law contract like any other.
  - realusername 8y ago
    No that's not, and I'm not playing on semantic. Laws are above any terms of use, regardless of what they might say. And not using the product makes you not bound to the terms of use, unlike laws which you have to obey at all times.
    - ckastner 8y ago
      I'm beginning to think that when you said by "not signing anything" earlier, you actually meant "not agreeing to anything", is that correct? > And not using the product makes you not bound to the terms of use, unlike laws which you have to obey at all times. Of course not. But in this specific case, it is safe to assume that he is using the product, or more specifically: he used Slack to develop BetterSlack.
      - realusername 8y ago
        Ah yeah sorry, there's been some misunderstanding, I agree with you.

zwaps 8y ago

Well here in the EU you can easily make a contract without signature. Even handshake contracts could be binding. So thats not true.

mijamo 8y ago
"in the EU" is false. There are many different countries and several of those do not accept handshake agreements as contracts at all.