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Often the reason they have jaded attitudes, is because they did the impossible, and watched others get rewarded for it.

by ojbyrne 16y ago

mkempe 16y ago
I didn't become jaded. I learnt my lessons -- and promised myself not to let others grab the rewards of my own creativity and efforts. I started and run my own company. Prometheus won't succeed unless he chooses to unbind himself.
keeptrying 16y ago
You do realise that this can only happen if your an employee? Where you work your butt off and you still get paid your regular salary even if your product is a huge success in the market. And in a corporation this is still a minor cause of pain. The politics, stupid rules and pointy haired bosses are a much bigger cause of "jadedness". I think anyone who starts their own company doesnt have the time to get jaded.
- billswift 16y ago
  From my observations, it is more common in academia than in business. Most companies try to accurately identify productive people because they are aware of gaming issues, and, when there is an issue of rewards, want to continue benefiting by rewarding the correct person. On the other hand, I have seen several claims that the majority of work "produced" by senior academics was actually done by grad students - though I think their claims of how often it happens are probably exaggerated.
  - btilly 16y ago
    I disagree. In many, many successful startups, the people who make the money and the people who did the work are only loosely correlated. In particular early employees who were duds get paid well, and later employees who were key to the success get only modest payouts.
- ojbyrne 16y ago
  You don't think inferior products sometimes win in the marketplace? Ever hear of FUD?
- varaon 16y ago
  > I think anyone who starts their own company doesnt have the time to get jaded. Just beware the investors! The less you own, the less control you have.

Often the reason they have jaded attitudes, is because they did the impossible, and watched others get rewarded for it.

by ojbyrne 16y ago

Often the reason they have jaded attitudes, is because they did the impossible, and watched others get rewarded for it.

I didn't become jaded. I learnt my lessons -- and promised myself not to let others grab the rewards of my own creativity and efforts. I started and run my own company. Prometheus won't succeed unless he chooses to unbind himself.

keeptrying 16y ago

You do realise that this can only happen if your an employee? Where you work your butt off and you still get paid your regular salary even if your product is a huge success in the market. And in a corporation this is still a minor cause of pain. The politics, stupid rules and pointy haired bosses are a much bigger cause of "jadedness". I think anyone who starts their own company doesnt have the time to get jaded.

billswift 16y ago
From my observations, it is more common in academia than in business. Most companies try to accurately identify productive people because they are aware of gaming issues, and, when there is an issue of rewards, want to continue benefiting by rewarding the correct person. On the other hand, I have seen several claims that the majority of work "produced" by senior academics was actually done by grad students - though I think their claims of how often it happens are probably exaggerated.
- btilly 16y ago
  I disagree. In many, many successful startups, the people who make the money and the people who did the work are only loosely correlated. In particular early employees who were duds get paid well, and later employees who were key to the success get only modest payouts.
ojbyrne 16y ago
You don't think inferior products sometimes win in the marketplace? Ever hear of FUD?
varaon 16y ago
> I think anyone who starts their own company doesnt have the time to get jaded. Just beware the investors! The less you own, the less control you have.