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Google is donating $9 million in Google cloud credits to the CNCF (foundation that runs k8s) for the testing and operational bits. This means the CI and unit te

by SEJeff 8y ago

Google is donating $9 million in Google cloud credits to the CNCF (foundation that runs k8s) for the testing and operational bits. This means the CI and unit testing infra that was manually hosted by google will be in the control of the foundation and not strictly google anymore. The $9 million in cloud credits are expected to be used over the next 3 years.

flabergasted 8y ago
Excuse my ignorance, but What??? How does one spend $9 million in Cloud computing by just running CI operations and Unit Testing in 3 years???? $9 million/3 years for Dev Ops Infrastructure for just one specific product sounds out of this world to me.
- bpicolo 8y ago
  > Between the testing infrastructure and hosting container downloads, the Kubernetes project regularly runs over 150,000 containers on 5,000 virtual machines, so the cost of running these systems quickly adds up. The Kubernetes container registry served almost 130 million downloads since the launch of the project.
- detaro 8y ago
  From the Google post: > We’re funding this move with a $9 million grant of GCP credits to the CNCF, split over three years, to cover infrastructure costs. In addition to the world-wide network and storage capacity required to serve all those container downloads, a large part of this grant will be dedicated to funding scalability testing, which regularly runs 150,000 containers across 5,000 virtual machines.
- thockingoog 8y ago
  Run 5000 VMs more or less continuously. Spin up/down hundreds of kube clusters every day - on every GitHub Pull Request. Serve 9-digits worth of container images per month. To name a few. The infra behind k8s is kind of staggering.
- newnewpdro 8y ago
  It sounds like the k8s project has behaved as if it has infinite cloud resources at its disposal, and as such has made no effort to conserve usage. If this really is a matter of giving the community a mountain of credits, they could probably make it last a whole lot longer with a quick housekeeping pass.
  - thockingoog 8y ago
    This is explicitly part of the process of transferring each property. We need to be able to produce reports on spend in each area, and those reports are property of CNCF, not Google.
    - newnewpdro 8y ago
      Ok? All I'm suggesting is that there are probably low-hanging fruit to make the credits last longer, if up until now the community has been behaving as if resources are free and unlimited.
      - thockingoog 8y ago
        I'm agreeing and saying that is part of the plan :)

by SEJeff 8y ago

flabergasted 8y ago

Excuse my ignorance, but What??? How does one spend $9 million in Cloud computing by just running CI operations and Unit Testing in 3 years???? $9 million/3 years for Dev Ops Infrastructure for just one specific product sounds out of this world to me.

bpicolo 8y ago
> Between the testing infrastructure and hosting container downloads, the Kubernetes project regularly runs over 150,000 containers on 5,000 virtual machines, so the cost of running these systems quickly adds up. The Kubernetes container registry served almost 130 million downloads since the launch of the project.
detaro 8y ago
From the Google post: > We’re funding this move with a $9 million grant of GCP credits to the CNCF, split over three years, to cover infrastructure costs. In addition to the world-wide network and storage capacity required to serve all those container downloads, a large part of this grant will be dedicated to funding scalability testing, which regularly runs 150,000 containers across 5,000 virtual machines.
thockingoog 8y ago
Run 5000 VMs more or less continuously. Spin up/down hundreds of kube clusters every day - on every GitHub Pull Request. Serve 9-digits worth of container images per month. To name a few. The infra behind k8s is kind of staggering.
newnewpdro 8y ago
It sounds like the k8s project has behaved as if it has infinite cloud resources at its disposal, and as such has made no effort to conserve usage. If this really is a matter of giving the community a mountain of credits, they could probably make it last a whole lot longer with a quick housekeeping pass.
- thockingoog 8y ago
  This is explicitly part of the process of transferring each property. We need to be able to produce reports on spend in each area, and those reports are property of CNCF, not Google.
  - newnewpdro 8y ago
    Ok? All I'm suggesting is that there are probably low-hanging fruit to make the credits last longer, if up until now the community has been behaving as if resources are free and unlimited.
    - thockingoog 8y ago
      I'm agreeing and saying that is part of the plan :)