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I've been at multiple companies where people get zero minutes notice of a layoff -- "Hey, come meet with me -- btw IT just took your machine." Despite that, th

by gknoy 8y ago

I've been at multiple companies where people get zero minutes notice of a layoff -- "Hey, come meet with me -- btw IT just took your machine." Despite that, the team I worked with were people I was close to, whose skill and wisdom I respect. It was as a courtesy to my _manager_ (and my team) that I gave N>=2 weeks notice. After all, every single one of these people are people I would love to work with again, and I'd like to preserve those good work relationships. I've been very lucky to never have a boss or team that I didn't feel that way about.

chrisco255 8y ago
I've seen every kind of way a company handles a firing or layoff, good, bad, everything in between. Doesn't matter. That's not you. What kind of impression and what kind of legacy do you want to leave? It costs you nothing to be the bigger person in any case. But hopefully, you leave a toxic company long before they do this kind of thing to you.
- lovich 8y ago
  It costs you (14/365)*the salary increase at a new job. Additionally it puts you in a legal gray zone where you have quit employer A, but dont work at employer B yet. Employer B can rescind the job offer which leaves you with no job and no unemployment payments because the states views it as you voluntarily becoming unemployed. I have gone through that situation so it's not theoretical, and it does have an actual cost. As for keeping a personal relationship, giving two weeks to maintain friendly relationships with a manager is just something weve all decide to do for seemingly no reason. Unless you work in a no skill job, you are not going to be replaced in 2 weeks. You are also not going to be able get an actual knowledge transfer done in two weeks unless your team had already done this before you quit, in which case the notice period doesn't matter anyway. The two weeks notice period just let's companies get another two weeks of work from you, at a job you have explicitly decided you dont want to stay at
  - chrisco255 8y ago
    For a professional job, there's usually a waiting period of a couple weeks before the job is ready to onboard you. It's extremely rare and unexpected that a company gives you an offer on Friday and expects you to start on the following Monday. It's not just your manager, it's your coworkers, it's your team. You don't want to leave them hanging at a critical juncture with no time to find a replacement. It's not for no reason, it's because relationships matter, more than you know, and it pays a lot of dividends to invest in long-lasting relationships that carry on even beyond your job.
    - lovich 8y ago
      I guess we hang out in different crowds then. The other software engineers I know would congratulate someone for leaving with no notice. The only reason we haven't is fear that your managers might start trashing you in the community here, there is zero concern that coworkers would be upset. I get the concept of not burning bridges, but you gotta ask if the bridge is gonna take you somewhere you want to go Edit: Additionally, every job I've worked at in my career has wanted me to start ASAP. I've even had one explicitly ask me if I could give my previous employer less notice so I could start earlier

by gknoy 8y ago

chrisco255 8y ago

I've seen every kind of way a company handles a firing or layoff, good, bad, everything in between. Doesn't matter. That's not you. What kind of impression and what kind of legacy do you want to leave? It costs you nothing to be the bigger person in any case. But hopefully, you leave a toxic company long before they do this kind of thing to you.

lovich 8y ago
It costs you (14/365)*the salary increase at a new job. Additionally it puts you in a legal gray zone where you have quit employer A, but dont work at employer B yet. Employer B can rescind the job offer which leaves you with no job and no unemployment payments because the states views it as you voluntarily becoming unemployed. I have gone through that situation so it's not theoretical, and it does have an actual cost. As for keeping a personal relationship, giving two weeks to maintain friendly relationships with a manager is just something weve all decide to do for seemingly no reason. Unless you work in a no skill job, you are not going to be replaced in 2 weeks. You are also not going to be able get an actual knowledge transfer done in two weeks unless your team had already done this before you quit, in which case the notice period doesn't matter anyway. The two weeks notice period just let's companies get another two weeks of work from you, at a job you have explicitly decided you dont want to stay at
- chrisco255 8y ago
  For a professional job, there's usually a waiting period of a couple weeks before the job is ready to onboard you. It's extremely rare and unexpected that a company gives you an offer on Friday and expects you to start on the following Monday. It's not just your manager, it's your coworkers, it's your team. You don't want to leave them hanging at a critical juncture with no time to find a replacement. It's not for no reason, it's because relationships matter, more than you know, and it pays a lot of dividends to invest in long-lasting relationships that carry on even beyond your job.
  - lovich 8y ago
    I guess we hang out in different crowds then. The other software engineers I know would congratulate someone for leaving with no notice. The only reason we haven't is fear that your managers might start trashing you in the community here, there is zero concern that coworkers would be upset. I get the concept of not burning bridges, but you gotta ask if the bridge is gonna take you somewhere you want to go Edit: Additionally, every job I've worked at in my career has wanted me to start ASAP. I've even had one explicitly ask me if I could give my previous employer less notice so I could start earlier