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I came from a small country in Europe and schools followed a more strict policy. We were not allowed to change classrooms from 1-12 grade, the teachers switched

by slics 8y ago

I came from a small country in Europe and schools followed a more strict policy. We were not allowed to change classrooms from 1-12 grade, the teachers switched classrooms. Because of that process, we created a bond with the classmates and kind of became like a family and protected one another. There was bullying, but it was minimal because the non-supervision time window was small during our 20 min lunch break. I promise, if the western schools follow the same policy all that pushing and shoving of kids during class transition will not happen. Just my 2 cents.

wastedhours 8y ago
Or you punish the few for the actions of the majority. I was in a terrible class in school, and for 3 years we had all our lessons together. The only way the teachers knew how to attempt to control it was through collective responsibility, punishing the entire class - something that only affects the people who behave well enough to even indulge in punishment [0]. Relying on peer bonding falls down when you're unlucky to be placed with those who're unengaged in the system (mostly not their own fault, society has let them down, doesn't make the impact any less shitty for all involved though). Until you make education more engaging (usually through quality teachers), and invest in supporting those who've been let down to the extent they've given up on progressing in life by age 12, without being destructive to others, it's going to be a clusterfuck all round. [0] those who don't care enough to not set fire to the classroom are unlikely to care about turning up for detention or getting a bad referral...
icebraining 8y ago
the non-supervision time window was small during our 20 min lunch break So you didn't have breaks between classes? You were stuck in the classroom all day?
- slics 8y ago
  There was a 5-10 min window for teachers to walk from class to class. So yeah we were there the entire time, 8AM-3PM. Same thing exists in the lower grades in US, K-5. We don’t see those kids complaining either.
  - icebraining 8y ago
    Frankly, that sounds awful to me, even as an adult; it sounds like a recipe for sedentarism and vitamin D deficiency. In my country we have 15m recesses between each class, starting from 5th grade, where we got some sunlight and exercise - at least climbing the stairs back to the classroom, but many kids played some sport or game with physical activity.

by slics 8y ago

wastedhours 8y ago

Or you punish the few for the actions of the majority. I was in a terrible class in school, and for 3 years we had all our lessons together. The only way the teachers knew how to attempt to control it was through collective responsibility, punishing the entire class - something that only affects the people who behave well enough to even indulge in punishment [0]. Relying on peer bonding falls down when you're unlucky to be placed with those who're unengaged in the system (mostly not their own fault, society has let them down, doesn't make the impact any less shitty for all involved though). Until you make education more engaging (usually through quality teachers), and invest in supporting those who've been let down to the extent they've given up on progressing in life by age 12, without being destructive to others, it's going to be a clusterfuck all round. [0] those who don't care enough to not set fire to the classroom are unlikely to care about turning up for detention or getting a bad referral...

icebraining 8y ago

the non-supervision time window was small during our 20 min lunch break So you didn't have breaks between classes? You were stuck in the classroom all day?

slics 8y ago
There was a 5-10 min window for teachers to walk from class to class. So yeah we were there the entire time, 8AM-3PM. Same thing exists in the lower grades in US, K-5. We don’t see those kids complaining either.
- icebraining 8y ago
  Frankly, that sounds awful to me, even as an adult; it sounds like a recipe for sedentarism and vitamin D deficiency. In my country we have 15m recesses between each class, starting from 5th grade, where we got some sunlight and exercise - at least climbing the stairs back to the classroom, but many kids played some sport or game with physical activity.