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I've never done drugs or even tobacco, but Steve Jobs claimed dropping acid changes your perspective on reality and was a big factor in his success. That gives

by fmajid 8y ago

I've never done drugs or even tobacco, but Steve Jobs claimed dropping acid changes your perspective on reality and was a big factor in his success. That gives me pause.

GGfpc 8y ago
It can also trigger undiagnosed mental conditions like schizophrenia.
- m_fayer 8y ago
  I would think it's self-evident that chemically (forcibly) modifying your perspective and the timbre of your subjective/emotional experience, a change that without chemical assistance would be slow, difficult to achieve, and often impossible, would not be entirely safe. But, safety isn't everything.
- jdavis703 8y ago
  And speaking from personal experience, so can stressful activities like child birth. The human mind is complex, the best we can hope for is better educating people about mental health.
- acct1771 8y ago
  Sounds like a diagnosis to me.
hycaria 8y ago
Acid felt like a circle jerk with myself to be quite honest.
- acct1771 8y ago
  Coincidentally, that sounds exactly like the drug Steve Jobs would enjoy!
saiya-jin 8y ago
It's extremely powerful experience, you simply can't get anything similar in any other way. Your whole concept of reality will be blown away, even physical aspects of your existence disappear (like your body and most senses we take for granted). hard to describe with mere words. Will you realize some hidden truth about the nature of the universe? Most probably not. Will it teach you something about yourself and your mind? Most definitely yes. Can this change you forever? Of course it can, and many it will. Can this trigger any dormant mental disease? Absolutely. Any profoundly shocking experience can, even binge drinking - met one person who ended up on lifelong schizophrenia treatment because of alcohol.
- kaffeemitsahne 8y ago
  >Can this trigger any dormant mental disease? This always seems like such a strange rhetoric to me. If a drug "triggers" a "dormant disease" that you wouldn't have gotten if you hadn't taken the drug, why not just say the drug caused the disease?
  - beaconstudios 8y ago
    because it would only cause the disease in people who have a predisposition (usually genetic) towards that disease. Paracetamol can trigger Stevens Johnson Syndrome but it does not cause it in people who aren't predisposed to it.
  - saiya-jin 8y ago
    With possibly great reward comes relatively great risk. Anybody currently mentally unstable or with family history of these things shouldn't touch psychedelics, or any other drug including higher doses of alcohol, probably ever. There are not that many people in the western world who never ever got drunk. During one of few mushroom experiences I encountered, i was lying in the bed, alone, eyes closed. I gradually lost all the sensory inputs from whole body, perceiving via some sort of 'inner vision'. I got dissolved into white mist of atoms and just swirled around in an endless dance to the tune of some relaxing music playing in real world. When coming down, I literally slowly assembled myself back to original me, atom by atom, first the mind, then rediscovery of body, eyes, taste and so on. I felt very strongly that if something was broken in me, this assembly back wouldn't work very well, or at least it would reveal some dark spots in my personality. Maybe not trigger them, who knows. I could break the experience anytime if I wanted, but there was no need, it was beautiful all the way through.

by fmajid 8y ago

I've never done drugs or even tobacco, but Steve Jobs claimed dropping acid changes your perspective on reality and was a big factor in his success. That gives me pause.

GGfpc 8y ago

It can also trigger undiagnosed mental conditions like schizophrenia.

m_fayer 8y ago
I would think it's self-evident that chemically (forcibly) modifying your perspective and the timbre of your subjective/emotional experience, a change that without chemical assistance would be slow, difficult to achieve, and often impossible, would not be entirely safe. But, safety isn't everything.
jdavis703 8y ago
And speaking from personal experience, so can stressful activities like child birth. The human mind is complex, the best we can hope for is better educating people about mental health.
acct1771 8y ago
Sounds like a diagnosis to me.

hycaria 8y ago

Acid felt like a circle jerk with myself to be quite honest.

acct1771 8y ago
Coincidentally, that sounds exactly like the drug Steve Jobs would enjoy!

saiya-jin 8y ago

It's extremely powerful experience, you simply can't get anything similar in any other way. Your whole concept of reality will be blown away, even physical aspects of your existence disappear (like your body and most senses we take for granted). hard to describe with mere words. Will you realize some hidden truth about the nature of the universe? Most probably not. Will it teach you something about yourself and your mind? Most definitely yes. Can this change you forever? Of course it can, and many it will. Can this trigger any dormant mental disease? Absolutely. Any profoundly shocking experience can, even binge drinking - met one person who ended up on lifelong schizophrenia treatment because of alcohol.

kaffeemitsahne 8y ago
>Can this trigger any dormant mental disease? This always seems like such a strange rhetoric to me. If a drug "triggers" a "dormant disease" that you wouldn't have gotten if you hadn't taken the drug, why not just say the drug caused the disease?
- beaconstudios 8y ago
  because it would only cause the disease in people who have a predisposition (usually genetic) towards that disease. Paracetamol can trigger Stevens Johnson Syndrome but it does not cause it in people who aren't predisposed to it.
- saiya-jin 8y ago
  With possibly great reward comes relatively great risk. Anybody currently mentally unstable or with family history of these things shouldn't touch psychedelics, or any other drug including higher doses of alcohol, probably ever. There are not that many people in the western world who never ever got drunk. During one of few mushroom experiences I encountered, i was lying in the bed, alone, eyes closed. I gradually lost all the sensory inputs from whole body, perceiving via some sort of 'inner vision'. I got dissolved into white mist of atoms and just swirled around in an endless dance to the tune of some relaxing music playing in real world. When coming down, I literally slowly assembled myself back to original me, atom by atom, first the mind, then rediscovery of body, eyes, taste and so on. I felt very strongly that if something was broken in me, this assembly back wouldn't work very well, or at least it would reveal some dark spots in my personality. Maybe not trigger them, who knows. I could break the experience anytime if I wanted, but there was no need, it was beautiful all the way through.