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Ecstasy != mdma. It’s pretty easy to spot clean mdma visually or tasting or you can just recrystalize it yourself. It’s imoossible to figure out what is in ecst

Ecstasy != mdma. It’s pretty easy to spot clean mdma visually or tasting or you can just recrystalize it yourself. It’s imoossible to figure out what is in ecstasy.. and is always a combo of above drugs and more. Clean mdma is more common these days than ecstasy in most of Europe atleast.

Nursie 8y ago
This is not really true. Several things look quite a lot like MDMA, and one of the problems with Ecstasy tablets in Europe at the moment is that they contain too much MDMA for a single dose. Always test your drugs people, and start low.
- simonsaidit 8y ago
  If you know this stuff you also know the taste and looks of the crystal and why eg it got the color it does. There is no easy way of knowing what is inside a tablet but the “pure” crystallized products are easy to recognize mdma especially. And it would have to be a damn big tablet to contain too much mdma... by bet is on what else is inside.
  - Nursie 8y ago
    > There is no easy way of knowing what is inside a tablet Chemical tests. > but the “pure” crystallized products are easy to recognize mdma especially Lots of the extended amphetamine family (including the various -drones) share very similar tastes, and crystallise very similarly. If you wash MDMA that contains these other substances you'll end up recrystallising those as well. > And it would have to be a damn big tablet to contain too much mdma... by bet is on what else is inside. Then your bet is factually wrong and likely dangerous. Test your stuff. Know what you're getting, start low, and don't listen to people who 'know what the real stuff looks like'
    - simonsaidit 8y ago
      I don’t disagree to starting low but definitely listen to people who knows where the good stuff is. Trusting your network is more realistic than having tested everything you get. In the perfect world I’d run around with a lab in my pocket sure....
  - soundwave106 8y ago
    The only foolproof-ish way of knowing what is inside a tablet is tests done by some rather precise, expensive equipment that separates elements into their component parts (chromatography), and then analyzes the mass of the separated components (spectrometry) and compares them to a database of known components. Nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) spectroscopy is also an option. It is unlikely most people will have access to equipment with the precision necessary at home. There is an organization out there (https://www.ecstasydata.org/ https://www.ecstasydata.org/) that does anonymous GCMS tablet tests of MDMA in particular for $40 (and other substances for a higher price). The typical tests out there for most people are reagent tests -- chemicals known to react with a desired substance to turn a certain color. Reagent tests are not foolproof -- the main thing you know is that if you do not get the desired color, you most likely don't have the correct product. It is possible to fool a reagent test. They are better than nothing for sure. Taste, color, and crystallization are not really reliable ways of identifying the product.
    - simonsaidit 8y ago
      Again you Seem to have little knowledge about the subject when you keep mentioning tablets.. mdma usally comes in crystal form and has a distinct taste. Ecstasy is a whole other thing usally containg amfetamine, ketamin and many other things.
      - Nursie 8y ago
        Either can be many other things these days. Your sense of taste is really not an adequate guide.
        simonsaidit 8y ago
        No it’s true that anything can be poisoned even your beer leaving it on a table. Usally your supplier and the people in the culture will know what is good and where to get it... it’s only a concern I would have getting stuff from random people.
        8y ago

Nursie 8y ago

This is not really true. Several things look quite a lot like MDMA, and one of the problems with Ecstasy tablets in Europe at the moment is that they contain too much MDMA for a single dose. Always test your drugs people, and start low.

simonsaidit 8y ago
If you know this stuff you also know the taste and looks of the crystal and why eg it got the color it does. There is no easy way of knowing what is inside a tablet but the “pure” crystallized products are easy to recognize mdma especially. And it would have to be a damn big tablet to contain too much mdma... by bet is on what else is inside.
- Nursie 8y ago
  > There is no easy way of knowing what is inside a tablet Chemical tests. > but the “pure” crystallized products are easy to recognize mdma especially Lots of the extended amphetamine family (including the various -drones) share very similar tastes, and crystallise very similarly. If you wash MDMA that contains these other substances you'll end up recrystallising those as well. > And it would have to be a damn big tablet to contain too much mdma... by bet is on what else is inside. Then your bet is factually wrong and likely dangerous. Test your stuff. Know what you're getting, start low, and don't listen to people who 'know what the real stuff looks like'
  - simonsaidit 8y ago
    I don’t disagree to starting low but definitely listen to people who knows where the good stuff is. Trusting your network is more realistic than having tested everything you get. In the perfect world I’d run around with a lab in my pocket sure....
- soundwave106 8y ago
  The only foolproof-ish way of knowing what is inside a tablet is tests done by some rather precise, expensive equipment that separates elements into their component parts (chromatography), and then analyzes the mass of the separated components (spectrometry) and compares them to a database of known components. Nuclear magnetic resonance (NMR) spectroscopy is also an option. It is unlikely most people will have access to equipment with the precision necessary at home. There is an organization out there (https://www.ecstasydata.org/ https://www.ecstasydata.org/) that does anonymous GCMS tablet tests of MDMA in particular for $40 (and other substances for a higher price). The typical tests out there for most people are reagent tests -- chemicals known to react with a desired substance to turn a certain color. Reagent tests are not foolproof -- the main thing you know is that if you do not get the desired color, you most likely don't have the correct product. It is possible to fool a reagent test. They are better than nothing for sure. Taste, color, and crystallization are not really reliable ways of identifying the product.
  - simonsaidit 8y ago
    Again you Seem to have little knowledge about the subject when you keep mentioning tablets.. mdma usally comes in crystal form and has a distinct taste. Ecstasy is a whole other thing usally containg amfetamine, ketamin and many other things.
    - Nursie 8y ago
      Either can be many other things these days. Your sense of taste is really not an adequate guide.
      - simonsaidit 8y ago
        No it’s true that anything can be poisoned even your beer leaving it on a table. Usally your supplier and the people in the culture will know what is good and where to get it... it’s only a concern I would have getting stuff from random people.
        8y ago