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> Generation Z – people born after 1995 – half of those surveyed stated they had quit or were considering quitting at least one social media platform That seem

> Generation Z – people born after 1995 – half of those surveyed stated they had quit or were considering quitting at least one social media platform That seems incorrectly taken statement. They represent it as though people are leaving social media. That is a false logic. E.g. Peeps may have swapped instagram to snapchat... It would be interesting to know what % dont use social media by age group.. Something here: http://www.pewinternet.org/2018/03/01/social-media-use-in-2018/ http://www.pewinternet.org/2018/03/01/social-media-use-in-20...

adrianratnapala 8y ago
True, but the existence of churn is interesting in itself. A few years ago we feared people would be stuck on one platform because all their friends are stuck there. That doesn't mean people are exactly choosing freely now, they might be following the herd because all their friends are following the herd. But at least upstarts can compete for the future herds.
SimplyUnknown 8y ago
Funny that your link includes WhatsApp as a social medium. I don't see it like that at all. For me it is just a free alternative to SMS. Besides, they say it is big in Latin Amercia but in my country, Holland, I would guess that by now it is present on >95% of all smartphones. (latest source I could find was from 2016, which states that 92% of all smartphones in the Netherlands have WhatsApp installed, https://tweakers.net/nieuws/109689/whatsapp-staat-op-11-komma-2-miljoen-nederlandse-smartphones.html https://tweakers.net/nieuws/109689/whatsapp-staat-op-11-komm...). I would consider reddit, missing in the article, more of a social network than WhatsApp.
- Freak_NL 8y ago
  WhatsApp's group chat feature sees the same issues as any other social media platform; spread of disinformation, digital witch hunts, bullying, etc. How is it not a social medium?
  - fwn 8y ago
    > spread of disinformation, digital witch hunts, bullying, etc That are just features of every communication platform, even the traditional postal services. AFAIK, most people consider social media platforms to be a subset of communication platforms with many to many communication, discovery, community etc.. I'm with you though that the groups feature of WhatsApp could be seen as some basic form of social media. (For the sake of theoretic precision; certainly not for introducing censorship.)
  - SimplyUnknown 8y ago
    My bike has the same problems as my convertible car: It gets flat tires, I get wet when it rains and it costs more energy to go uphill. Is my bike now a convertible car? The definition of a social network is not in its problems but in its features. And I'd say one of the defining features of a social network is discovery (e.g. new people, groups that share a common interest, etc.). This is completely lacking in WhatsApp - as you already need to be able to "have access" to the people you want to talk with before you can contact them - but is the integral experience with facebook or instagram.
  - ummonk 8y ago
    Is having group conversations in person a social medium too?
- jhasse 8y ago
  > Funny that your link includes WhatsApp as a social medium. I don't see it like that at all. For me it is just a free alternative to SMS. You can post status updates (images, message, videos, ...) with WhatsApp: https://faq.whatsapp.com/en/android/26000031/ https://faq.whatsapp.com/en/android/26000031/
  - falcor84 8y ago
    But what percent of people actually use these features? I would assume it's in the low single digits.
    - lclarkmichalek 8y ago
      https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/3/15537000/whatsapp-stories-status-users-175-million https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/3/15537000/whatsapp-stories-... More than snapchat, in 2017.
- snaky 8y ago
  In China, WeChat is the social medium (and everything else).
- fstanis 8y ago
  I agree, but where to draw the line? I don't use Facebook, but I use Messenger Lite. Am I a user of social media?

adrianratnapala 8y ago

True, but the existence of churn is interesting in itself. A few years ago we feared people would be stuck on one platform because all their friends are stuck there. That doesn't mean people are exactly choosing freely now, they might be following the herd because all their friends are following the herd. But at least upstarts can compete for the future herds.

SimplyUnknown 8y ago

Funny that your link includes WhatsApp as a social medium. I don't see it like that at all. For me it is just a free alternative to SMS. Besides, they say it is big in Latin Amercia but in my country, Holland, I would guess that by now it is present on >95% of all smartphones. (latest source I could find was from 2016, which states that 92% of all smartphones in the Netherlands have WhatsApp installed, https://tweakers.net/nieuws/109689/whatsapp-staat-op-11-komma-2-miljoen-nederlandse-smartphones.html https://tweakers.net/nieuws/109689/whatsapp-staat-op-11-komm...). I would consider reddit, missing in the article, more of a social network than WhatsApp.

Freak_NL 8y ago
WhatsApp's group chat feature sees the same issues as any other social media platform; spread of disinformation, digital witch hunts, bullying, etc. How is it not a social medium?
- fwn 8y ago
  > spread of disinformation, digital witch hunts, bullying, etc That are just features of every communication platform, even the traditional postal services. AFAIK, most people consider social media platforms to be a subset of communication platforms with many to many communication, discovery, community etc.. I'm with you though that the groups feature of WhatsApp could be seen as some basic form of social media. (For the sake of theoretic precision; certainly not for introducing censorship.)
- SimplyUnknown 8y ago
  My bike has the same problems as my convertible car: It gets flat tires, I get wet when it rains and it costs more energy to go uphill. Is my bike now a convertible car? The definition of a social network is not in its problems but in its features. And I'd say one of the defining features of a social network is discovery (e.g. new people, groups that share a common interest, etc.). This is completely lacking in WhatsApp - as you already need to be able to "have access" to the people you want to talk with before you can contact them - but is the integral experience with facebook or instagram.
- ummonk 8y ago
  Is having group conversations in person a social medium too?
jhasse 8y ago
> Funny that your link includes WhatsApp as a social medium. I don't see it like that at all. For me it is just a free alternative to SMS. You can post status updates (images, message, videos, ...) with WhatsApp: https://faq.whatsapp.com/en/android/26000031/ https://faq.whatsapp.com/en/android/26000031/
- falcor84 8y ago
  But what percent of people actually use these features? I would assume it's in the low single digits.
  - lclarkmichalek 8y ago
    https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/3/15537000/whatsapp-stories-status-users-175-million https://www.theverge.com/2017/5/3/15537000/whatsapp-stories-... More than snapchat, in 2017.
snaky 8y ago
In China, WeChat is the social medium (and everything else).
fstanis 8y ago
I agree, but where to draw the line? I don't use Facebook, but I use Messenger Lite. Am I a user of social media?