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> please tell me if you think I left out something important. You did: the position of neutrality. The position of not taking a stance either way. The positio

by sdrinf 8y ago

> please tell me if you think I left out something important. You did: the position of neutrality. The position of not taking a stance either way. The position of actually doing stuff, like, in the real world, orthogonal to that of politics. The area outside of politics. I observe, based on your comment 3 above, that you consider politics as all-encompassing. I reply: politics, as practiced currently, is a virus, which attempts to stick itself to everything, every act, every stuff; and until nuance, tolerance, and understanding re-enters the picture, I will not take any part of it.

mike10010100 8y ago
> You did: the position of neutrality. The position of not taking a stance either way. The position of actually doing stuff, like, in the real world, orthogonal to that of politics. The area outside of politics. Everything is political. Pretending it isn't is a luxury that you yourself have, as a person who is privileged enough that they aren't in any way forced to think about the politics of any action they take. > politics, as practiced currently, is a virus Again, it always was. You were just privileged enough that you could safely ignore it without it impacting any part of your life.
- antidesitter 8y ago
  > Everything is political. Can you support your claim with evidence?
  - mike10010100 8y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_personal_is_political https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_personal_is_political
zapita 8y ago
I understand you personally don’t want to engage in what you consider politics at work. I don’t think anyone here has a problem with that. But you seem to feel like other people are forcing you to say or do political things. I don’t understand who those people are, or how they force you to say or do political things. All I see are people who are saying things at work, like “everyone should march for lgbtq rights next weekend”, and those things annoy you because you don’t think it’s appropriate to discuss them at work. So, in this scenario, now you’re annoyed by unwanted speech... what happens next? Are you forced to go march, or forced to say outloud that you agree, under threat (explicit or implied) of retaliation? That might be illegal depending on where you work, but ianal. If that’s not what’s happening, then can you explain in more detail what harm is done to you, beyond being annoyed?

by sdrinf 8y ago

mike10010100 8y ago

> You did: the position of neutrality. The position of not taking a stance either way. The position of actually doing stuff, like, in the real world, orthogonal to that of politics. The area outside of politics. Everything is political. Pretending it isn't is a luxury that you yourself have, as a person who is privileged enough that they aren't in any way forced to think about the politics of any action they take. > politics, as practiced currently, is a virus Again, it always was. You were just privileged enough that you could safely ignore it without it impacting any part of your life.

antidesitter 8y ago
> Everything is political. Can you support your claim with evidence?
- mike10010100 8y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_personal_is_political https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_personal_is_political

zapita 8y ago

I understand you personally don’t want to engage in what you consider politics at work. I don’t think anyone here has a problem with that. But you seem to feel like other people are forcing you to say or do political things. I don’t understand who those people are, or how they force you to say or do political things. All I see are people who are saying things at work, like “everyone should march for lgbtq rights next weekend”, and those things annoy you because you don’t think it’s appropriate to discuss them at work. So, in this scenario, now you’re annoyed by unwanted speech... what happens next? Are you forced to go march, or forced to say outloud that you agree, under threat (explicit or implied) of retaliation? That might be illegal depending on where you work, but ianal. If that’s not what’s happening, then can you explain in more detail what harm is done to you, beyond being annoyed?