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Your mistake is in thinking that you can separate out politics from "work" or any other concept. What you fail to realize is that everything is political. Ever

Your mistake is in thinking that you can separate out politics from "work" or any other concept. What you fail to realize is that everything is political. Everything. Politics isn't some concrete, easily identifiable thing you can point at. You can't separate out things into a "Politics" bucket and a "Not Politics" bucket. No, politics pervades every single human interaction. Politics is in everything and everything is inherently political.

jeffmcmahan 8y ago
"[E]verything is inherently political." My preference for the scent of lavender over cinnamon -- political. I'm against the designated hitter rule. Political too. I think my dog should not get into the trash. It's all politics.
- pas 8y ago
  Cyinism is political too. Of course not directly, but even the tinyiest things can and do become political. Hand gestures, clothing, music, choice of cars, choice of food, choice of words.
  - jeffmcmahan 8y ago
    How is it cynical to demonstrate that a specific claim -- put across with unreasonable certitude -- is in fact flatly false? Let me ask you: is De Morgan's theorem political? Directly? Indirectly?
    - pas 8y ago
      Would it benefit some group more than the other? Then it has political consequences. Logic seems fairly apolitical, but logicians rarely. Thus it's pretty reasonable to think of circumstances where simply stating a fact turns out to be political.
      - jeffmcmahan 8y ago
        "Would [De Morgan's theorem] benefit some group more than the other?" Your actual publicly adopted opinion reads like a joke.
spyckie2 8y ago
Why are stupid things like politics being proclaimed as the universal influencer behind behavioral decisions? If this is a side effect of putting fairness on a pedestal, then I don't think optimizing for fairness is the right way for society to develop. Whatever happened to a society that has its roots in "love your neighbor and pray for those who persecute you"? Irrespective of religious beliefs, this is exactly what politically minded people want, but they go about it by hating other people and treating people as non-people - it's a huge hypocrisy and disgraceful behavior.
Splines 8y ago
What? No. Politics has no bearing on any number of technical discussions. Why should I consider liberal/conservative ideology when deciding if the CFoo should inherit from CBar.
- Crespyl 8y ago
  Because the concept of inheriting things from your ancestors is reflective of your white male heritage that doesn't have a slave-ship shaped hole in your family tree. We should find more inclusive semantics for programming languages, or else risk perpetuating inherited racist cultural assumptions. /s
- pas 8y ago
  OP obviously, not everything is directly about politics, but evrrything can and does become a political battleground. Think about how Master/Slave vs Primay/Secondary is an issue. It's technical, but at the same time choice of nomenclature reflects about those who chose them.
badcede 8y ago
Politics does not pervade every single interaction. Humans also love.

jeffmcmahan 8y ago

"[E]verything is inherently political." My preference for the scent of lavender over cinnamon -- political. I'm against the designated hitter rule. Political too. I think my dog should not get into the trash. It's all politics.

pas 8y ago
Cyinism is political too. Of course not directly, but even the tinyiest things can and do become political. Hand gestures, clothing, music, choice of cars, choice of food, choice of words.
- jeffmcmahan 8y ago
  How is it cynical to demonstrate that a specific claim -- put across with unreasonable certitude -- is in fact flatly false? Let me ask you: is De Morgan's theorem political? Directly? Indirectly?
  - pas 8y ago
    Would it benefit some group more than the other? Then it has political consequences. Logic seems fairly apolitical, but logicians rarely. Thus it's pretty reasonable to think of circumstances where simply stating a fact turns out to be political.
    - jeffmcmahan 8y ago
      "Would [De Morgan's theorem] benefit some group more than the other?" Your actual publicly adopted opinion reads like a joke.

spyckie2 8y ago

Why are stupid things like politics being proclaimed as the universal influencer behind behavioral decisions? If this is a side effect of putting fairness on a pedestal, then I don't think optimizing for fairness is the right way for society to develop. Whatever happened to a society that has its roots in "love your neighbor and pray for those who persecute you"? Irrespective of religious beliefs, this is exactly what politically minded people want, but they go about it by hating other people and treating people as non-people - it's a huge hypocrisy and disgraceful behavior.

Splines 8y ago

What? No. Politics has no bearing on any number of technical discussions. Why should I consider liberal/conservative ideology when deciding if the CFoo should inherit from CBar.

Crespyl 8y ago
Because the concept of inheriting things from your ancestors is reflective of your white male heritage that doesn't have a slave-ship shaped hole in your family tree. We should find more inclusive semantics for programming languages, or else risk perpetuating inherited racist cultural assumptions. /s
pas 8y ago
OP obviously, not everything is directly about politics, but evrrything can and does become a political battleground. Think about how Master/Slave vs Primay/Secondary is an issue. It's technical, but at the same time choice of nomenclature reflects about those who chose them.

badcede 8y ago

Politics does not pervade every single interaction. Humans also love.