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What about a mesh that is not connected to the internet? These days, people use the internet like TV or radio: many consume, few produce. What about a "commun

What about a mesh that is not connected to the internet? These days, people use the internet like TV or radio: many consume, few produce. What about a "community" mesh, where e.g. a small town has websites, email, webservices, gaming hosts etc for shops, businesses, sporting, clubs, council, local news and social media for that town?

zamadatix 8y ago
For the same reason communities don't build a second road system not connected to the main road system. Why would I want to build a system that makes it so I can't check websites, email, webservices, gaming hosts, businesses, clubs, council, local news, and social media just because I'm in the next town over during work? Also if you really wanted to only have services available locally why not just do that via access control policy instead of building a second infrastructure?
superkuh 8y ago
That place still exists on the internet. The 90s are alive on Tor.
- fosco 8y ago
  can you elaborate on this? would love to explore, but where exactly to start?
int_19h 8y ago
Check out Broadband-HamNet.
iak8god 8y ago
https://disaster.radio https://disaster.radio is a neat little project that might be helpful for building something like this.
sandworm101 8y ago
>>> a small town has websites, email, webservices, gaming hosts etc for shops, businesses, sporting, clubs, council, local news and social media for that town? Facebook.
jedahan 8y ago
I've been working a bit on https://baculus.co https://baculus.co which has some overlap with that use case. Super early hacking, mainly built on scuttlebutt and other services on rpi3s, all in backpacks.
walrus01 8y ago
It's entirely possible to build a WISP and have no transit upstreams or peers. If you wanted to truly island it you'd need additional DNS infrastructure that most wisps don't have. Never seen it done, though, because the use cases for such a thing are rare, vs a wisp that provides a default route to its customers out to the internet.

zamadatix 8y ago

For the same reason communities don't build a second road system not connected to the main road system. Why would I want to build a system that makes it so I can't check websites, email, webservices, gaming hosts, businesses, clubs, council, local news, and social media just because I'm in the next town over during work? Also if you really wanted to only have services available locally why not just do that via access control policy instead of building a second infrastructure?

superkuh 8y ago

That place still exists on the internet. The 90s are alive on Tor.

fosco 8y ago
can you elaborate on this? would love to explore, but where exactly to start?

int_19h 8y ago

Check out Broadband-HamNet.

iak8god 8y ago

https://disaster.radio https://disaster.radio is a neat little project that might be helpful for building something like this.

sandworm101 8y ago

>>> a small town has websites, email, webservices, gaming hosts etc for shops, businesses, sporting, clubs, council, local news and social media for that town? Facebook.

jedahan 8y ago

I've been working a bit on https://baculus.co https://baculus.co which has some overlap with that use case. Super early hacking, mainly built on scuttlebutt and other services on rpi3s, all in backpacks.

walrus01 8y ago

It's entirely possible to build a WISP and have no transit upstreams or peers. If you wanted to truly island it you'd need additional DNS infrastructure that most wisps don't have. Never seen it done, though, because the use cases for such a thing are rare, vs a wisp that provides a default route to its customers out to the internet.