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> It's like you haven't even used it, or actually have no use case to use it for creation. FWIW iPads and android tablets tend to not work for most software de

> It's like you haven't even used it, or actually have no use case to use it for creation. FWIW iPads and android tablets tend to not work for most software development tasks.The "iPads aren't for producers" mentality might be more of a "iPads aren't for Software producers (and some types of engineers)"

lostgame 8y ago
producer ≠ developer. I'm a producer. I produce short film and music, amongst others. I'm also a developer. I use xCode, Dreamweaver, and Unity to develop applications and games. Developing - that's what computers are still for. And devs know that. Developing on-device will come, in time. I, for one, don't have a problem with needing an extra dev machine, specifically for the purpose. I understand this represents a financial burden for some, especially considering the cost of a new MacBook. I'm fortunate enough to have had a Mac by my side since I was 14, and I'm 29 now, which means more than half my life. So for me, already a Mac user, the iOS dev ecosystem was actually a blessing. I understand, however, I am obviously an outlier in that set of data.
- throwawayjava 8y ago
  > producer ≠ developer. I agree; in fact, that was my whole point :) > Developing on-device will come, in time. We'll see what Moore and his progenitors think. Until software is the only bottleneck, there will definitely always be lower-tier, cheaper options for the N>50% of the population that doesn't need the compute/batter life/etc. that's necessary for a mobile dev machine. My WAG is that we're still a few generations (as in people generations, not tech generations) from getting there. If we ever get there at all.
Terretta 8y ago
> FWIW iPads and android tablets tend to not work for most software development tasks. It's certainly not for local Windows application development, but it's great for 21st century architectures (infra as code), containerized apps, or any other CI/CD-able scenario. With an iPad Pro, Apple's Smart Keyboard, and the lovely Working Copy + Textastic, and blink.sh Mosh/SSH client, together with a decent CI/CD (commit code, deploy to dev) pipeline in place, you're good. See also Buffer, GoCodeEditor, Koder, etc. Several of these happen to be 50% off atm. Don't forget you can remote desktop to GUI things too, from Citrix to RDP.
- hakfoo 8y ago
  On a conventional laptop I can run the entire stack locally. This can be anything from "run XAMPP" to "fire up a stack of virtual machines and containers allowing you to mock up an entire data centre all on one physical box." In contrast, an iPad is little more than an editor and/or terminal that relies on a lot of outside infrastructure to do something meaningful with what you're typing.

lostgame 8y ago

producer ≠ developer. I'm a producer. I produce short film and music, amongst others. I'm also a developer. I use xCode, Dreamweaver, and Unity to develop applications and games. Developing - that's what computers are still for. And devs know that. Developing on-device will come, in time. I, for one, don't have a problem with needing an extra dev machine, specifically for the purpose. I understand this represents a financial burden for some, especially considering the cost of a new MacBook. I'm fortunate enough to have had a Mac by my side since I was 14, and I'm 29 now, which means more than half my life. So for me, already a Mac user, the iOS dev ecosystem was actually a blessing. I understand, however, I am obviously an outlier in that set of data.

throwawayjava 8y ago
> producer ≠ developer. I agree; in fact, that was my whole point :) > Developing on-device will come, in time. We'll see what Moore and his progenitors think. Until software is the only bottleneck, there will definitely always be lower-tier, cheaper options for the N>50% of the population that doesn't need the compute/batter life/etc. that's necessary for a mobile dev machine. My WAG is that we're still a few generations (as in people generations, not tech generations) from getting there. If we ever get there at all.

Terretta 8y ago

> FWIW iPads and android tablets tend to not work for most software development tasks. It's certainly not for local Windows application development, but it's great for 21st century architectures (infra as code), containerized apps, or any other CI/CD-able scenario. With an iPad Pro, Apple's Smart Keyboard, and the lovely Working Copy + Textastic, and blink.sh Mosh/SSH client, together with a decent CI/CD (commit code, deploy to dev) pipeline in place, you're good. See also Buffer, GoCodeEditor, Koder, etc. Several of these happen to be 50% off atm. Don't forget you can remote desktop to GUI things too, from Citrix to RDP.

hakfoo 8y ago
On a conventional laptop I can run the entire stack locally. This can be anything from "run XAMPP" to "fire up a stack of virtual machines and containers allowing you to mock up an entire data centre all on one physical box." In contrast, an iPad is little more than an editor and/or terminal that relies on a lot of outside infrastructure to do something meaningful with what you're typing.