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The only two distributions I've tried where this worked with a one liner were NixOS and Arch. I'm surprised this doesn't work in Manjaro given that it's an Arch

by nextos 8y ago

The only two distributions I've tried where this worked with a one liner were NixOS and Arch. I'm surprised this doesn't work in Manjaro given that it's an Arch derivative. But I don't see much point in Arch derivatives as they do away with Arch's selling point. No layers between you and upstream.

leblancfg 8y ago
I see what you mean, and I agree with you in theory. The long learning curve and installation time for Arch was a non-starter for me though. Back to your point, Manjaro runs directly on pacman repos, not a layer between it and upstream. It just comes with IMO sane defaults and an installer GUI.
- foepys 8y ago
  But don't expect support from the Arch Linux forums. They really, really don't like Manjaro as it attracts people that shouldn't be running Arch in the first place. Arch Linux is not for beginners.
- nextos 8y ago
  When did you try Arch? With the adoption of systemd it's incredibly easy to configure if you aim for a simple no desktop enviroment setup or something minimal. If not, I think it doesn't make any sense to use it unless you are a seasoned user. Rolling release will make running big frameworks like KDE tricky, as things will change often. And unless you have set everything up yourself, you won't know where to look in order to fix things. I'd recommend you look into NixOS if you want to run a desktop environment. It's radically different (totally functional and declarative, whereas Arch is imperative). All Python and deep learning stuff is neatly packaged and tested. And rollbacks are trivial. There's no state. You can even run Nix in other distros or macOS.
  - beojan 8y ago
    > Rolling release will make running big frameworks like KDE tricky, as things will change often. On the contrary, you get new releases (with bugfixes) much sooner.

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The only two distributions I've tried where this worked with a one liner were NixOS and Arch. I'm surprised this doesn't work in Manjaro given that it's an Arch

by nextos 8y ago

leblancfg 8y ago
I see what you mean, and I agree with you in theory. The long learning curve and installation time for Arch was a non-starter for me though. Back to your point, Manjaro runs directly on pacman repos, not a layer between it and upstream. It just comes with IMO sane defaults and an installer GUI.
- foepys 8y ago
  But don't expect support from the Arch Linux forums. They really, really don't like Manjaro as it attracts people that shouldn't be running Arch in the first place. Arch Linux is not for beginners.
- nextos 8y ago
  When did you try Arch? With the adoption of systemd it's incredibly easy to configure if you aim for a simple no desktop enviroment setup or something minimal. If not, I think it doesn't make any sense to use it unless you are a seasoned user. Rolling release will make running big frameworks like KDE tricky, as things will change often. And unless you have set everything up yourself, you won't know where to look in order to fix things. I'd recommend you look into NixOS if you want to run a desktop environment. It's radically different (totally functional and declarative, whereas Arch is imperative). All Python and deep learning stuff is neatly packaged and tested. And rollbacks are trivial. There's no state. You can even run Nix in other distros or macOS.
  - beojan 8y ago
    > Rolling release will make running big frameworks like KDE tricky, as things will change often. On the contrary, you get new releases (with bugfixes) much sooner.