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That paper is talking about user recommendations, not ranking. Your family member was without a doubt talking about Google News even if they weren't aware of i
by repolfx 8y ago
That paper is talking about user recommendations, not ranking.
Your family member was without a doubt talking about Google News even if they weren't aware of it because results from News are mixed in to generic search results. If you search [trump] on web search then the top part of the page is dedicated entirely to results that come from News, not generic web search.
The idea that Google News is unbiased is unsustainable, simply because humans whitelist news sources. It's not like web search where basically any web page can appear at any location automatically. There is no algorithm for deciding if a website is "news" or not. It's a human judgement.
Google employees have literally cried in company meetings when Trump was elected, only someone very naive would believe these people are going to be neutral about what sources they allow and how they decide which sources are more authoritative than others. Do you believe it's a coincidence that Breitbart never ranks, despite having an Alexa rank essentially the same as the Washington Post, given how Google employees are reported to have acted lately?
Your knowledge of maths is I'm afraid not very relevant to this topic because mathematics is simply a tool. Your family member is evaluating humans and their likely actions, not algorithms, and that is the correct thing to do because it's ultimately humans that control the algorithms. Google employees are perfectly capable of biasing its results and then lying about it to the public, without even being aware that they're doing it.
- misiti3780 8y agoso your stance is 1) neither of us know if this is the case, (and thus this convo is pointless) or 2)i am universally wrong and google is biasing the new results ?
- repolfx 8y agoThe conversation isn't pointless! It started with you stating your belief that your family member is stupid (Dunning-Kruger effect) and that your knowledge of maths means you "know" that Google's results are unbiased. Well, honestly that concerned me because family relations are quite important. If the outcome of this conversation is you realise neither of you two know for sure then perhaps your view of your family member will go back to what it was, or even you may take their concerns more seriously and listen to them more closely. That would be a healthier family! Certainly, knowing maths is irrelevant to the debate you would have with them because maths has nothing to do with whether Google News is biased or not.
- misiti3780 8y agoi stand by my original statement that, mainly that 1) i was not talking about google news, i was talking about google search results 2) (1) uses page rank which you need to understand basic linear algebra to understand the paper (aka maths) 3) its not possible for a team of internal engineers to bias it nor would it be in googles interest to do it