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Part I. I'll try to give an answer and a response more generally to the material in the OP. Background. I got a BS in pure math with nearly a second major in
by graycat 8y ago
Part I.
I'll try to give an answer and a response
more generally to the material in the OP.
Background. I got a BS in pure math with
nearly a second major in physics and
worked in computing and applied math for
problems in US national security around
DC. Jobs were very easy to get; at one
time my annual salary was 6 times what a
new high end Camaro cost; much of the work
was challenging for both the computing and
the applied math; I was learning a lot of
both computing, e.g., algorithms in Knuth,
and applied math on the job and also
especially math in independent study on
evenings and weekends. Soon I got a call
from a college friend to join FedEx. I
used my background in computing, with a
little applied math, to write some
software, in six weeks, to schedule the
fleet. The results pleased the BoD,
enabled crucial funding, and saved the
company. Later the BoD wanted some
revenue projections. I formulated and
solved
y'(t) = k y(t) (b - y(t))
for time t, revenue y(t) at time t, rate
of growth y'(t) = d/dt y(t) at time t, and
full revenue potential b. The BoD was
pleased, and ..., to make a long story
short, I saved the company again.
Then I got a Ph.D. in applied math from
the engineering school of a famous, high
end research university.
Now I'm doing an Internet startup, a Web
site, basically a new and very different
search engine -- for the, IMHO, very large
part of search handled at best poorly by
the existing Web sites and well known
techniques.
For the startup, my applied math
background is crucial: The crucial,
enabling core of the startup is some
original applied math I derived based on
some advanced pure math prerequisites I
got both in grad school and in independent
study. I already knew enough computing
except had to learn how to bring up a Web
site that has been easy for the user
interface but due to the core math
somewhat tricky on the server side. I
learned Microsoft's Visual Basic .NET (for
the programming language -- I like it),
ADO.NET (for the Web pages), and ASP.NET
for the (relatively meager) use of SQL
Server. The main difficulty was working
through 5000+ Web pages of documentation.
The first code is the first production
code, 100,000 lines of typing, 24,000
programming language statements, and lots
of documentation. The code seems to run
as intended, but I need to add some data.
Some lessons:
(1) Math. IMHO, the key to powerful,
valuable, new applications of computing is
applied math. That is, if we accept that
the big opportunity is to exploit and
apply current computing, then we might
notice that whatever we code to put out
data users will like, as information,
entertainment, whatever, is necessarily
mathematically something, understood or
not, powerful and valuable or not. So, in
some sense, from 100,000 feet up, it
should help to proceed mathematically,
with possibly advanced prerequisites, some
new results focused on the application in
mind, and complete with theorems and
proofs. Just IMHO. But I don't know
anyone with a yacht over 100' long that
did that; I suspect that very few people
agree with me. Maybe what I am saying is
a hopeless wild goose chase or a great
green field opportunity -- you judge.
(2) Getting a Ph.D. In a nutshell, the
three most important parts of getting a
Ph.D., in no particular order, are
research, research, and research. Yes,
there can be courses, credits, grades,
teaching assistant positions, weekly
research seminars, qualifying exams, etc.,
but at a research university what can "cut
through", dominate, and trump all or
nearly all of that is research. The
research should be publishable in a good
peer-reviewed journal of original
research; if there is any question, then
send it in.
The criterion for a Ph.D. dissertation may
be something like "An original
contribution to knowledge worthy of
publication." -- so, in case of some
doubt, publish the thing.
The usual criteria for publication are
that the work be (i) new, (ii) correct,
and (iii) significant.
Now for a non-standard observation and
recommendation: Go for applied math in an
engineering school. Start with a real
problem, hopefully a significant real
problem, likely from outside academics,
hopefully identified before or early in
the Ph.D. program. Do some new math to
get the first good or a much better
solution to the real problem. So, the
math is "new" -- got (i)! Since the work
is math, with theorems and proofs, it's
easy enough to check for "correct" -- got
(ii)! Since have the first good or much
better solution for the real problem which
is hopefully significant, get
"significant" -- got (iii). Note: The
math may not, just as stand alone pure
math, be seen as significant -- so, likely
have not proved the Riemann hypothesis,
shown that P = NP, etc. But compared with
a lot of pure math, are already ahead by
one point -- have one real world
application!
In my case, I started with a problem I had
identified in industry before grad school.
I found an intuitive and rough solution on
an airplane ride. In my first year in
grad school, one course I took let me make
solid math out of my intuitive solution; I
did that independently in my first summer,
walked out of the library with an 80 page
manuscript that had all the actual
research for my dissertation.
Then I encountered some of the nasty
nonsense as in the OP: There was a prof
who didn't like me. He thought of rows,
columns, and layers, lines, stay within
the lines, rules, etc. and resented that
I'd basically written my dissertation
independently within 12 months of arriving
on campus and before taking the qualifying
exams.
Well, a course had a question but no
answer. I did a good enough literature
search and saw that likely there was no
answer known -- since it was a very narrow
question, it was easy to do the literature
search. I got a reading course approved
to address the question and write a
paper, maybe just expository and maybe
without a solution. Just before getting
the reading course approved, in a few
evenings I found a rough solution. So,
got the course approved -- shook hands
with the prof. Then I cleaned up my first
solution, mostly sitting beside my wife on
our bed while she watched TV and I worked
on the problem, and found a much better
solution and a general result that was
surprising, even shocking, and settled
some related questions. That took two
weeks into the reading course. I
submitted my manuscript of about 20 pages,
and I was done with the reading course.
Fast course. The course also had three
credits and gave me the last credits I
needed for an MS. News of my work spread
through the department; my favorite prof
walked up to me in the hall, "I heard
about your result. It also says that
....". Yup, clearly it did.
The result was clearly publishable; later
I did publish it -- no problem, accepted
right away.
The biggie, practical result was that
suddenly I had a halo and a coat of Kevlar
armor against any criticism; any of the
faculty would have loved to have done what
I did. To defend against the abuse as in
the OP, I recommend -- do some publishable
RESEARCH.
(3) Handling Ph.D. Qualifying Exams. At
least at one time, the Web page of the
math department at Princeton stated, IIRC
(if I remember correctly):
"Students are expected to prepare for the
qualifying exams on their own. Graduate
courses are introductions to research by
experts in their fields. No courses are
given for preparation for the qualifying
exams."
In part, the qualifying exams are like a
foot race, but in this race you can get a
head start and be 1 foot from the finish
line when the starting gun goes off.
I consider that Princeton policy to be
somewhat wise. So, prepare for the
qualifying exams on your own (to be able
to do this in math, a good ugrad pure math
major should be sufficient to let you know
how to study and learn, make good
progress, and not get stuck or lost). To
do this preparation, get the best, focused
information you can on what will be asked.
So, get recommended texts, copies of old
exams, maybe chat with some profs and some
students who have taken, hopefully passed,
the exams, syllabi of any relevant
courses, etc., maybe all before applying
to the Ph.D. program. Then study. Use
some judgment on how deep to cut and how
many proofs to memorize -- cut deep enough
but not so deep you take too long or just
quit.
Then show up as a first year Ph.D.
student, do well in some courses, do well
on the qualifying exams, complete your
research, listen to Pomp and
Circumstance, get your degree, and LEAVE.
(4) Academic Career. If you want an
academic career, then maybe don't leave
the grad program so soon. Instead,
publish some papers, get some streams of
promising research going, meet people at
research seminars and conferences, get
known by the Editors in Chief of the
journals or conferences where you publish,
if invited to give a talk at a conference,
do so, do the usual meet and greet and
publicity, build your own professional
network, etc., hopefully some of your
profs will help you get some job
interviews, etc. Learn how the academic
games are played -- there are some really
important academic games, and you very
much should learn how they are played.
Then you will be in an academic career.
One possible prof slot is in a B-school.
Consider that. Someone with a good
applied math background has a heck of an
advantage in a B-school. Papers that make
progress on practical problems are
commonly considered good research in
B-schools. People who want to hire
consultants tend to regard B-school profs
as more practical , i.e., motivated by
money, than more pure profs.
- graycat 8y agoPart II. My wife was fatally injured in her Ph.D. program. The OP outlines a lot of just what happened to her. To have time to try to help her, for a while I took a slot as a B-school prof. It didn't work -- lost her anyway. I never for even a milli, micro, nano, pico, femto second wanted to be a prof. Instead, I wanted to be solving problems in business, the money making kind. (5) Non-Academic Career. Then I tried to get my career going again, outside academics. Bluntly, that didn't work very well. I made a mistake: I should have returned to DC and gotten back into applied math and computing for US national security. I guessed that there would be opportunities as an employee in business; I was wrong. Bluntly, my view is that US business and Ph.D. holders mix less well than oil and water. Part of why: (A) Business is still a lot like Ford in Henry's day: The manager knows more, and the subordinate is there to add muscle to the work of the manager. A manager has no use for a subordinate who knows much and resents or feels threatened by such a person. Supposedly lawyers have a solution: A working level lawyer should work only for a lawyer. Period. Well, a working level Ph.D. should work only for another Ph.D., and that criterion would eliminate nearly all jobs for a Ph.D. in business. Not even a CEO wants a Ph.D. around except maybe tucked away in some side organization, out of the main work of the business. E.g., the CEO is plenty sure that he is the only really important person in the company and, thus, certainly doesn't need a Ph.D. or some academic background he (the CEO) doesn't have! (B) Business regards Ph.D. holders as blue sky dreamers out in the ozone who refuse to contribute to the business, who really want to publish a lot of papers and get a prof slot in academics. (C) If a Ph.D. person does anything original relevant to anything in business, usually the business will regard this person as a threat. (D) Suppose a Ph.D. takes on a practical business problem: (i) If the Ph.D. successfully uses their advanced knowledge to get a good solution, e.g., one that makes a lot of money for the business, then everyone else in the business, even the CEO and the BoD, will feel threatened and/or jealous. (ii) If the Ph.D. fails to get a good solution, then everyone else will take the opportunity to denigrate both the person and the Ph.D. degree -- "I always thought that a Ph.D. was just a useless, hopeless, worthless impractical dreamer out in the ozone, and now we know for sure.". (6) A Ph.D. in a business research division. Yes, some businesses, say, ones with some loose cash, might set up a research division, hire a Ph.D. as the director, and hope for something good. If nothing good happens, well, the company could afford the wasted money. Generally, connections about the actual business between the research division and the rest of the company are more awkward than a skunk at a Victorian garden party. The rest of the company doesn't want to be bothered, sees various threats, etc. Here are some of the reasons for such a research division: (A) Luster. Use the research division to impress the public, for good PR, to impress customers, to cover the rear exhaust port of both the CEO and the BoD, etc. (B) As a patent shop. So, the research division can develop a patent portfolio, maybe dozens, hundreds, thousands of patents. Then some specialized lawyers can use that patent portfolio as a, call it, battering ram against any would be competitors. There can be cross licensing deals, revenue, etc. (7) Career direction. It's your career. In this career, there will necessarily be some directions you will be pursuing. Some directions are good; most are not. It's up to you, and maybe your family, closest, trusted friends, etc. to pick, at least try to pick, a good direction(s). If you just look for a job, get some offers, and take the best offer, then likely you will be following the direction of your employer, especially your immediate supervisor. That direction was not picked by you; likely it is not a very good direction for you or anyone; likely in that job you will have quite limited opportunities to change the direction to be something good for you. Bluntly, you will want income enough to provide for food, clothing, shelter, transportation, medical care, insurance against risk, recreation, a house you own, a family, education and other needs for your kids, and retirement, with some security, i.e., low risk, and at least a comfortable life style. That obvious goal is surprisingly difficult to achieve, especially if you are working just for a salary for a manager in a company, small, medium, or large. (8) Blunt US Fact of Life. IMHO, nearly all the people in the US doing well supporting a family get their money from owning part or all of a business that makes the money needed to pay the bills for that family. For this, can use some strategy: E.g., run the most popular Italian restaurant in a radius of 50 miles. Then you have: (A) A strong geographical barrier to entry, that is, a restaurant more than 50 miles away will be little or no competition for you. You have a better "Buffett moat" than any of IBM, Cisco, Intel, etc. (B) Your business is unlikely to be killed off by changes in technology. (C) We can be sure lots of people will still want a good Italian restaurant 10, 50, 100 years from now. You have a business more stable than any of IBM, Cisco, Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Intel, etc. Good economy or poor, people will still want to go for a dinner at an Italian restaurant -- you are relatively immune from changes in the economy. You have a very wide variety of customers, i.e., are not vulnerable to some one or few customers going broke, leaving town, etc. (D) Your family, spouse, children, can help in the restaurant and learn the business and continue running it as you grow old. (E) Working as an employee, you can be fired by a manager who, for whatever reason, doesn't like you. If you are the owner, then you can't be fired. (F) No one can please all the people all the time, and some managers can never be pleased. But in a good Italian restaurant, one unhappy customer occasionally can usually be mollified by an apology, a free glass of wine, just tearing up the check, etc. You DO have to do good work and please nearly everyone nearly all the time, but you can't be run out of business by just one unhappy customer. All or nearly all of (A)-(F) apply with no more than small modifications to a huge range of Main Street US family businesses. In your career, you should aim to do at least that well. (9) Ph.D. Entrepreneur. Okay, you have a STEM field Ph.D. and want to own your own business. If you work hard and smart, find that your Ph.D. is a great technological advantage (e.g., you can stir up powerful, valuable, new secret sauce), have some good luck, avoid too much bad luck, get well informed, consider strategy, ..., etc. then you might do really well. Your Ph.D. could be a terrific advantage. (10) Warning. Generally, if want to use your Ph.D. to help you be an entrepreneur in something relatively new, i.e., not an Italian restaurant, then likely you need to be darned careful and insightful. In this sense, I will say: (A) I believe strongly in the potential of some original applied math based on some powerful pure math prerequisites. (B) I regard current work in artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) as not very promising. Some people may yet have good careers there, or quickly get rich from some stock, invest the money in an index fund, and essentially retire, but generally my view is that the math is not powerful enough to be very promising and 90+% of what is being done in those fields now is based on wild, blue sky dreams with little real hope and a lot of hype, PR, maybe patent games, etc. Why: So far too much of the AI/ML work is too close to empirical curve fitting. (i) For small amounts of data, we've been able to do, and often have done, such curve fitting going back decades to the first transistor computers. At one point in my career, inside GE I did a lot of consulting for that work. So there was, and still are, SPSS, SAS, Matlab, R, etc. I never saw such people in yacht clubs. (ii) What appears to be new is curve fitting for large amounts of data. Well, we don't expect to have a lot of such data collections and promising corresponding problems. For more, I'd guess that self-driving cars are not very promising: For now, for current traffic on current roads, driving occasionally, and too often, needs real human intelligence. E.g., chimpanzee intelligence is not enough, and AI/ML are a long way short of chimpanzee intelligence. There is a chance for self-driving cars on roads that have a lot of new engineering, but that will be very expensive, IMHO, for a long time, too expensive. Self driving might work on some large farms, in a big open pit copper mine, some military tasks, and some other situations much less challenging than Manhattan traffic, I-95, etc. The general lesson: One of the keys to success is good initial problem selection. Most of the problems people have selected are not good. So, we have to try quite hard to select a good problem. Your mileage will likely vary widely.