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what about Tesla as number two ?

• dzdt 8y ago
  The other self-driving efforts seem to believe that additional sensors are required, whereas Tesla is sticking to camera-only solutions. If Tesla is wrong in this, they are not well-positioned to follow as a second mover.
  • jfoster 8y ago
    And if they're right they might be the fastest to scale. It's an interesting gamble.
  • erikpukinskis 8y ago
    No, Tesla has cameras and sonar. And Comma.ai is cameras only, so it’s not fair to say all the others believe LIDAR is necessary. Also, just because someone has LIDAR on their test rig, that doesn’t mean they think it’s necessary for production vehicles. They could just be using it for validation. They also might start off using it, and wean themselves off as they progress through development. Waymo I believe had explicitly said they think LIDAR is needed but I haven’t heard anyone else say that explicitly.
    • rasz 8y ago
      afaik comma requires modern hondas/toyotas with radar package
    • deepnotderp 8y ago
      Oh good, joke #2 agrees with joke #1. The last major Tesla crash in California was a clear situation where LIDAR would've prevented a crash and yet the Tesla team continues to insist that cameras and radar (sonar really doesn't help much...) are all that is needed.