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> I also worked in a corporation which had mostly women. Women love mind games and politics. Those I worked with definitely did. Presence of women is not necess

> I also worked in a corporation which had mostly women. Women love mind games and politics. Those I worked with definitely did. Presence of women is not necessarily an indicator of a stress-free workplace. It is imprecise to attribute intent to the politics and mind games that you may have experienced personally in an anecdotal case, using that kind of generalization. Also it may have had nothing to do with the fact that they were women, just a bad culture in that company specifically. There are plenty of companies with men who suffer the same problems. Overall it's an unfair generalization.

sireat 8y ago
Anecdotally my wife concurs with the OP. According to her experience(and talking with other women) as soon as the office gets 4-5 women, you get the Marie Antoinette type of tiny intrigues about issues that most heterosexual men would completely gloss over. Theoretically a man could spin such intrigues as well. It doesn't necessarily mean that such an office is a bad place to work as it may or may not affect overall productivity. Personally, I've never noticed such things but then again as a programmer most working environments are 90%+ men.
- fsloth 8y ago
  "Marie Antoinette type of tiny intrigues about issues that most heterosexual men would completely gloss over." This term is a bit ill defined - I'm not sure what it specifically means. Do you mean workplace bullying or something else?
  - sireat 8y ago
    As far as I understand, this means office politics, a little bit of oneupmanship, talking behind back etc etc. Again, I apologize for mentioning this as I have no first hand knowledge.
Viker 8y ago
I understand that you would like to be correct... But op is very on point... I can also "anecdotally" confirm that when I have work in offices with alot of women, the resulting culture is exactly what op is talking about.
- tobr 8y ago
  Well I can anecdotally refute it, so I don’t know where that leaves us.
  - fsloth 8y ago
    Confirmation bias or Selection bias [0][1] :)? Without proper study you could end up blaming free bananas in the office fruit bowl for increase or decrease in pathological office dynamics. Generally it can take only one bad individual to skew the behaviour patterns in a workplace. There are a lot of cognitive biases to choose from, though [2]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases

sireat 8y ago

Anecdotally my wife concurs with the OP. According to her experience(and talking with other women) as soon as the office gets 4-5 women, you get the Marie Antoinette type of tiny intrigues about issues that most heterosexual men would completely gloss over. Theoretically a man could spin such intrigues as well. It doesn't necessarily mean that such an office is a bad place to work as it may or may not affect overall productivity. Personally, I've never noticed such things but then again as a programmer most working environments are 90%+ men.

fsloth 8y ago
"Marie Antoinette type of tiny intrigues about issues that most heterosexual men would completely gloss over." This term is a bit ill defined - I'm not sure what it specifically means. Do you mean workplace bullying or something else?
- sireat 8y ago
  As far as I understand, this means office politics, a little bit of oneupmanship, talking behind back etc etc. Again, I apologize for mentioning this as I have no first hand knowledge.

Viker 8y ago

I understand that you would like to be correct... But op is very on point... I can also "anecdotally" confirm that when I have work in offices with alot of women, the resulting culture is exactly what op is talking about.

tobr 8y ago
Well I can anecdotally refute it, so I don’t know where that leaves us.
- fsloth 8y ago
  Confirmation bias or Selection bias [0][1] :)? Without proper study you could end up blaming free bananas in the office fruit bowl for increase or decrease in pathological office dynamics. Generally it can take only one bad individual to skew the behaviour patterns in a workplace. There are a lot of cognitive biases to choose from, though [2]. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cognitive_biases