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"HTML 5 is currently a work in progress. Although the specification can be used in some cases now, it is not likely to reach completion until 2010 at the very e

"HTML 5 is currently a work in progress. Although the specification can be used in some cases now, it is not likely to reach completion until 2010 at the very earliest." Flash and Silverlight WILL take over if the W3C cannot decide on HTML 5 standards faster than that. People aren't going to wait around for some standards committee to deliberate years on a final spec. 2010 is sooo far away in internet years its ridiculous.

tx 18y ago
I am hoping for a quick and widespread adoption of various mobile devices without Flash and Silverlight support with embedded Opera/Mozila/WebKit as primary web runtimes. I hope Adobe will lead the way and refuse to include Flash support into their next iPhone/iPodTouch. Once mobile standards-compliant users start representing sizeable portion of the web traffic, idiotic website builders will learn to stay away from Flash.
- jsjenkins168 18y ago
  This is true, but unfortunately only really with the iPhone. Flash Lite works on all of the other handsets that matter right now. And its really Apple keeping the gate closed on Adobe, not the other way around. I agree though, widespread mobile adoption of Flash (and any other browser plugin) will be seriously slowed while Apple does not let them in the iPhone. The thought of having to make completely different javascript and flash versions of a web app is not very attractive when you could just focus on a javascript version that works on both.
bprater 18y ago
Yerp, but not a word about this. Flash and Silverlight are here, ready-to-go now. How long before HTML 5 even remotely has any kind of saturation on the desktop, so that we can program against it? 5 years? There is some magic about an "upgradable browser" via plug-ins.
- thorax 18y ago
  Our next app is using Flash. Another one goes that way..

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"HTML 5 is currently a work in progress. Although the specification can be used in some cases now, it is not likely to reach completion until 2010 at the very e

by jsjenkins168 18y ago

tx 18y ago
I am hoping for a quick and widespread adoption of various mobile devices without Flash and Silverlight support with embedded Opera/Mozila/WebKit as primary web runtimes. I hope Adobe will lead the way and refuse to include Flash support into their next iPhone/iPodTouch. Once mobile standards-compliant users start representing sizeable portion of the web traffic, idiotic website builders will learn to stay away from Flash.
- jsjenkins168 18y ago
  This is true, but unfortunately only really with the iPhone. Flash Lite works on all of the other handsets that matter right now. And its really Apple keeping the gate closed on Adobe, not the other way around. I agree though, widespread mobile adoption of Flash (and any other browser plugin) will be seriously slowed while Apple does not let them in the iPhone. The thought of having to make completely different javascript and flash versions of a web app is not very attractive when you could just focus on a javascript version that works on both.
bprater 18y ago
Yerp, but not a word about this. Flash and Silverlight are here, ready-to-go now. How long before HTML 5 even remotely has any kind of saturation on the desktop, so that we can program against it? 5 years? There is some magic about an "upgradable browser" via plug-ins.
- thorax 18y ago
  Our next app is using Flash. Another one goes that way..