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Somehow I seriously doubt that's where we're headed. Perhaps people can go to the polls and write their representatives instead. We have a lack of growth and e

Somehow I seriously doubt that's where we're headed. Perhaps people can go to the polls and write their representatives instead. We have a lack of growth and economic value added for the majority of the population. This was my original observation. I'm not saying I know what's next or what should be done.

toomuchtodo 8y ago
There’s a quote I think is really profound: “A society is three meals away from revolution.” You seriously doubt that’s where things are headed, and yet Venezuela is in that phase currently. Things are stable until they’re not. It is a result of leaving a populace with no other recourse.
- maxwell 8y ago
  If inequality continues to grow, it seems like eventually an economic crisis will trigger those today called antifa thugs, alt-right nazis, inner city gangmembers, intellectual jihadis, violent incels, etc. to unify against the thousand rich guys who own everything (and so nothing). If they retreat to islands and citadels, perhaps instead retribution will be taken against the perceived proxies of the tech tyrants who ate the world, the tech workers.
  - toomuchtodo 8y ago
    > Or they'll live in citadels and instead retribution will be taken against the perceived proxies of the tech tyrants, the tech workers. Like Google busses being blocked in SF and Apple vans having their windows shot out on the highway? We’re closer to your prediction than you think.
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  - monocasa 8y ago
    Marie Antoinette lived her whole life on islands and in citadels. Didn't help her.
baq 8y ago
you don't have to imagine anything, just look around outside the place you're living in. compare e.g. central america or middle east 10-15 years ago and now.
stevenicr 8y ago
I see a middle area between these two processes now. The shop owner is not executed in the streets (he likely lives at least few towns away) - but he is being robbed more often. There are more armed robberies around our town the past couple years, and many more thefts. Sometimes by those who can't afford the area using a rock in hand, sometimes by people working at the establishment. Sometimes it's the cars and other property in the area, however I've seen more news lately where people are following managers from and to banks to hit the bigger deposits. (recent story shows video of woman being dragged by a car) - and more reporting on how to avoid being "jugged" (I think that was the term) IT would appear that more and more people are going for higher up the business money chain. Having items fall off the truck and stealing the pittance in the cash drawer is not enough these days, so indeed, the needle may be moving closer to the pitchforks that people really realize. I think most people have figured out that it doesn't matter how much you write your politician, or which party you vote for, in most places the cost of living is growing faster than wages. Squeezing friends and family for living funds only goes so far, and so many groups are going further to the criminal side to get theirs it seems.

toomuchtodo 8y ago

There’s a quote I think is really profound: “A society is three meals away from revolution.” You seriously doubt that’s where things are headed, and yet Venezuela is in that phase currently. Things are stable until they’re not. It is a result of leaving a populace with no other recourse.

maxwell 8y ago
If inequality continues to grow, it seems like eventually an economic crisis will trigger those today called antifa thugs, alt-right nazis, inner city gangmembers, intellectual jihadis, violent incels, etc. to unify against the thousand rich guys who own everything (and so nothing). If they retreat to islands and citadels, perhaps instead retribution will be taken against the perceived proxies of the tech tyrants who ate the world, the tech workers.
- toomuchtodo 8y ago
  > Or they'll live in citadels and instead retribution will be taken against the perceived proxies of the tech tyrants, the tech workers. Like Google busses being blocked in SF and Apple vans having their windows shot out on the highway? We’re closer to your prediction than you think.
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- monocasa 8y ago
  Marie Antoinette lived her whole life on islands and in citadels. Didn't help her.

baq 8y ago

you don't have to imagine anything, just look around outside the place you're living in. compare e.g. central america or middle east 10-15 years ago and now.

stevenicr 8y ago

I see a middle area between these two processes now. The shop owner is not executed in the streets (he likely lives at least few towns away) - but he is being robbed more often. There are more armed robberies around our town the past couple years, and many more thefts. Sometimes by those who can't afford the area using a rock in hand, sometimes by people working at the establishment. Sometimes it's the cars and other property in the area, however I've seen more news lately where people are following managers from and to banks to hit the bigger deposits. (recent story shows video of woman being dragged by a car) - and more reporting on how to avoid being "jugged" (I think that was the term) IT would appear that more and more people are going for higher up the business money chain. Having items fall off the truck and stealing the pittance in the cash drawer is not enough these days, so indeed, the needle may be moving closer to the pitchforks that people really realize. I think most people have figured out that it doesn't matter how much you write your politician, or which party you vote for, in most places the cost of living is growing faster than wages. Squeezing friends and family for living funds only goes so far, and so many groups are going further to the criminal side to get theirs it seems.