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John McCain’s first wife was a model who had a car accident that left her crippled and eroded her good looks. John McCain then cheated on her and then left her,

by rpiguy 8y ago

John McCain’s first wife was a model who had a car accident that left her crippled and eroded her good looks. John McCain then cheated on her and then left her, eventually remarrying a younger, very attractive, very heiress. By most biographical accounts he was not a nice man in private, very egocentric, and had a very carefully constructed and well-maintained public image. He also was a POW to a brutal, Communist regime, a real war hero. It was sad to see him go to such a terrible disease. A complicated man indeed.

gammateam 8y ago
Thats not complicated. Uncomplicated men are as faithful as their options. This is a timeless tale and largely irrelevant to me, unless I wanted to look past the well-maintained public image and notice "oh hey he's human too".
- rpiguy 8y ago
  You are right. “Human Too” would have been better than saying “complicated.” I thought it was relevant to this thread because every other comment has the word “honorable” in it, but in fact he was no better or worse than any of us.
  - gammateam 8y ago
    ah I understand now
docker_up 8y ago
He was very close friends with Joe Biden. Biden himself said on many occasions that if McCain ever called him up for help, Biden would be on the next plane to wherever he was in the world. I don't doubt that he had his enemies that hated him, but I doubt that sentence "he was not a nice man in private, very egocentric, and had a very carefully constructed and well-maintained public image." No one is perfect but there are more than enough honorable people that have painted McCain as both admirable, honorable and loved by them.
- 3x 8y ago
  Joe Biden is another ignominious, sold-out prick. He will be remembered in history mostly for being complicit in a lot of death and misery, and for his creepy interactions with children that are well documented on video.
khazhoux 8y ago
> John McCain’s first wife was a model who had a car accident that left her crippled and eroded her good looks. John McCain then cheated on her and then left her, eventually remarrying a younger, very attractive, very heiress. ...and then stayed married for 38 years until his death. Also, he and Carol were married only 2 years before he was shot down and they then spent 6 years apart, and then 6 years together post- her accident. So it's a bit cheap to cast him as just a trophy-wife chaser, who ditched his amazing first marriage the moment her looks got messed up.
- rpiguy 8y ago
  Yes he waited long enough to ensure a divorce wouldn’t sink his political career, which it could have back in those days...
  - unfunco 8y ago
    You know what they say… speak ill of the dead. You may not have liked McCain politically, but it's probably best to keep quiet about intimate things such as his romantic intentions or past relationships, your comment is sleazy and cheap, and I'm almost certain you're not an authority on those aspects of his life.
    - rpiguy 8y ago
      Great example of inversion right there. What McCain did to his first wife was sleazy, reminding people of it is not sleazy. This is the #metoo era, we are all moral absolutists now, particularly in the treatment of women. Of course I am not an authority on those aspects of his life, doesn't mean I can't speak about it or have an opinion about it. This is after all a discussion forum, which by its nature should encourage alternative views and opinions. I like McCain, I voted for him twice (primary in 2000 against Bush, and again in 2008 against Obama). I even liked Palin, before she self-imploded.

by rpiguy 8y ago

gammateam 8y ago

Thats not complicated. Uncomplicated men are as faithful as their options. This is a timeless tale and largely irrelevant to me, unless I wanted to look past the well-maintained public image and notice "oh hey he's human too".

rpiguy 8y ago
You are right. “Human Too” would have been better than saying “complicated.” I thought it was relevant to this thread because every other comment has the word “honorable” in it, but in fact he was no better or worse than any of us.
- gammateam 8y ago
  ah I understand now

docker_up 8y ago

He was very close friends with Joe Biden. Biden himself said on many occasions that if McCain ever called him up for help, Biden would be on the next plane to wherever he was in the world. I don't doubt that he had his enemies that hated him, but I doubt that sentence "he was not a nice man in private, very egocentric, and had a very carefully constructed and well-maintained public image." No one is perfect but there are more than enough honorable people that have painted McCain as both admirable, honorable and loved by them.

3x 8y ago
Joe Biden is another ignominious, sold-out prick. He will be remembered in history mostly for being complicit in a lot of death and misery, and for his creepy interactions with children that are well documented on video.

khazhoux 8y ago

> John McCain’s first wife was a model who had a car accident that left her crippled and eroded her good looks. John McCain then cheated on her and then left her, eventually remarrying a younger, very attractive, very heiress. ...and then stayed married for 38 years until his death. Also, he and Carol were married only 2 years before he was shot down and they then spent 6 years apart, and then 6 years together post- her accident. So it's a bit cheap to cast him as just a trophy-wife chaser, who ditched his amazing first marriage the moment her looks got messed up.

rpiguy 8y ago
Yes he waited long enough to ensure a divorce wouldn’t sink his political career, which it could have back in those days...
- unfunco 8y ago
  You know what they say… speak ill of the dead. You may not have liked McCain politically, but it's probably best to keep quiet about intimate things such as his romantic intentions or past relationships, your comment is sleazy and cheap, and I'm almost certain you're not an authority on those aspects of his life.
  - rpiguy 8y ago
    Great example of inversion right there. What McCain did to his first wife was sleazy, reminding people of it is not sleazy. This is the #metoo era, we are all moral absolutists now, particularly in the treatment of women. Of course I am not an authority on those aspects of his life, doesn't mean I can't speak about it or have an opinion about it. This is after all a discussion forum, which by its nature should encourage alternative views and opinions. I like McCain, I voted for him twice (primary in 2000 against Bush, and again in 2008 against Obama). I even liked Palin, before she self-imploded.