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I'm reminded of my old boss, a native Italian who had spent 7 years getting American citizenship. He was vehemently anti-immigrant and thought anything that hel
by mmanfrin 8y ago
I'm reminded of my old boss, a native Italian who had spent 7 years getting American citizenship. He was vehemently anti-immigrant and thought anything that helped "illegal immigrants" was a bad thing.
Your opinion and his are, to me, examples of one of the worst forms of greed: greed with a reasonable excuse. It is rational and I cannot really fault you for feeling that way, but this form of greed makes fixing the problem much harder to solve.
- SamReidHughes 8y agoIt is justice, not greed, that people have to pay back money they borrow.
- jschwartzi 8y agoNo. You're turning people into serfs for the better part of their adult life for a decision they made as a teenager. That's not justice, that's cruelty.
- SamReidHughes 8y ago$22K in debt isn't serfdom, that's the price of a Honda Civic. It takes few grand a year to keep up with interest.
- mmanfrin 8y ago22k is an average. There are many people whose debts are significantly more.
- SamReidHughes 8y agoEven with 100k in debt you're talking 7k interest. Get a job in sewer maintenance instead of museum curation and you'll have no problem paying that off.
- jschwartzi 8y agoIf I bought the Civic at least I could discharge the loan through bankruptcy. You're not allowed to do that with education loans. They're the only kind of debt I'm aware of where this is the case and it's unclear to me why we should treat our children any differently than we expect to be treated with regards to debt. I think there are a lot of issues with the system, not least of which is that it's possible to accrue that much debt without any credit check. But let's not pretend that the system isn't rigged to saddle people with debt.
- lovich 8y agoThe banks manipulate data and interest rates in violation of the law. Once the agreement has been broken by one side, how is it justice to make sure the other side follows the agreement to the letter?
- jquery 8y agoWas your old boss vehemently anti-immigrant or vehemently anti-illegal immigrant? I'm reminded of my wife, who legally immigrated to the states after getting a Ph.D. and working very hard. She finds illegal immigration quite aggravating and has sardonically suggested bringing over her parents for the social benefits because the rule-breakers seem to get rewarded with public benefits.