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Well, we’ve just had another “coup” here in Australia... our 6th Prime Minister in 10 years, so yeah there’s definitely a steady hand on the tiller of Australia

Well, we’ve just had another “coup” here in Australia... our 6th Prime Minister in 10 years, so yeah there’s definitely a steady hand on the tiller of Australian climate policy...

aplummer 8y ago
Yeah for peoples reference the new guy showed up to parliament with a lump of coal and yelled “don’t be afraid of coal!”. Looks like Australia will have a 45% renewable target in the next 6 months.
beerlord 8y ago
Australia's climate policy is simply its population policy. The country has hit 25 million people 33 years earlier than planned, due to very high levels of immigration from India and China.
cam_l 8y ago
Oh, come on now. The previous prime minister Mal (and current deputy leader Josh) gave the great barrier reef $444m. They are doing their very best to save it. I mean sure, the charity they gave it to never asked for it, and have only 6 people working for them. And of course they were good friends of the party, ex-exxon, ex-origin (gas fracking), ex-jbp (most corrupt gov in aus history). No oversight, no investigation, no input from the environment minister, just a big lump of cash... "for the reef". But they probably will do something with it.[0] [0] https://newmatilda.com/2018/08/20/turnbull-govt-implodes-still-making-policy-just-really-really-bad-policy/#attachment_57600 https://newmatilda.com/2018/08/20/turnbull-govt-implodes-sti...
- mirimir 8y ago
  It doesn't matter. There's no way that Australia could "save" the reef. At best, maybe they could bioengineer something that looked enough like a reef to keep tourists happy. Or maybe just replace it with plastic and stuff ;)
  - cam_l 8y ago
    Well, I mean, it matters.. both the corruption and the destruction of the reef (which by the way also faces more imminent threats from mining and agriculture).
    - mirimir 8y ago
      I don't mean that destruction of the reef doesn't matter. But I do doubt that Australia can do much to help or hurt, at this point. Perhaps reducing runoff from mining and agriculture would help. But oceanic acidification is a global issue, and it's inevitable at this point.
  - fungi 8y ago
    We could be global leaders committed to reducing green house gas emissions ASAP. No we could not single handily turn the ship around, nobody ever said we could. But we could be leaders and work hard for the greater good. Many many people have said we should do that.
    - mirimir 8y ago
      Those are admirable sentiments. And it's great to be optimistic. But if the models are at all relevant, it's probably already too late.
- 77ko 8y ago
  Hey, its not that bad, as you know only carefully vetted and patted down people are allowed into the exclusive lounge where the charity was born: > the foundation “started with a small group of businessmen chatting at the airport while waiting for their flight, wanting to do something to help the Great Barrier Reef

Well, we’ve just had another “coup” here in Australia... our 6th Prime Minister in 10 years, so yeah there’s definitely a steady hand on the tiller of Australian climate policy...

aplummer 8y ago

Yeah for peoples reference the new guy showed up to parliament with a lump of coal and yelled “don’t be afraid of coal!”. Looks like Australia will have a 45% renewable target in the next 6 months.

beerlord 8y ago

Australia's climate policy is simply its population policy. The country has hit 25 million people 33 years earlier than planned, due to very high levels of immigration from India and China.

cam_l 8y ago

Oh, come on now. The previous prime minister Mal (and current deputy leader Josh) gave the great barrier reef $444m. They are doing their very best to save it. I mean sure, the charity they gave it to never asked for it, and have only 6 people working for them. And of course they were good friends of the party, ex-exxon, ex-origin (gas fracking), ex-jbp (most corrupt gov in aus history). No oversight, no investigation, no input from the environment minister, just a big lump of cash... "for the reef". But they probably will do something with it.[0] [0] https://newmatilda.com/2018/08/20/turnbull-govt-implodes-still-making-policy-just-really-really-bad-policy/#attachment_57600 https://newmatilda.com/2018/08/20/turnbull-govt-implodes-sti...

mirimir 8y ago
It doesn't matter. There's no way that Australia could "save" the reef. At best, maybe they could bioengineer something that looked enough like a reef to keep tourists happy. Or maybe just replace it with plastic and stuff ;)
- cam_l 8y ago
  Well, I mean, it matters.. both the corruption and the destruction of the reef (which by the way also faces more imminent threats from mining and agriculture).
  - mirimir 8y ago
    I don't mean that destruction of the reef doesn't matter. But I do doubt that Australia can do much to help or hurt, at this point. Perhaps reducing runoff from mining and agriculture would help. But oceanic acidification is a global issue, and it's inevitable at this point.
- fungi 8y ago
  We could be global leaders committed to reducing green house gas emissions ASAP. No we could not single handily turn the ship around, nobody ever said we could. But we could be leaders and work hard for the greater good. Many many people have said we should do that.
  - mirimir 8y ago
    Those are admirable sentiments. And it's great to be optimistic. But if the models are at all relevant, it's probably already too late.
77ko 8y ago
Hey, its not that bad, as you know only carefully vetted and patted down people are allowed into the exclusive lounge where the charity was born: > the foundation “started with a small group of businessmen chatting at the airport while waiting for their flight, wanting to do something to help the Great Barrier Reef