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great simultaneous denigration of people who work for charities and people who donate to charities! (surely you can't earn decent salary while working for char

by borism 16y ago

great simultaneous denigration of people who work for charities and people who donate to charities! (surely you can't earn decent salary while working for charity and if you'll donate to it your quality of life is sure to decline! and sense of mission doesn't count as anything either! but maybe, just maybe, it's not all about the money?)

jrockway 16y ago
Not what I meant to convey. I said that if you're ok with $35,000 a year, why not get a job that pays $200,000 a year and donate $160,000? That cash is going to make a lot more difference than your PHP web app for contesting parking tickets ever will.
- artmageddon 16y ago
  I somewhat agree, but don't forget that a large portion of that will get taxed, which would limit the amount that you could donate.
  - jrockway 16y ago
    Donations are pre-tax.
    - j0 16y ago
      Actually, donations come out of your post-tax income, and then you get a tax deduction (not a credit) for them, if you itemize your taxes.
      - jrockway 16y ago
        Doesn't this work out the same? I know if you just donate $20 and take the standard deduction it's post-tax, but if you donate $165,000, I'm sure that your accountant can work something out for you.
- borism 16y ago
  > I said that if you're ok with $35,000 a year, why not get a job that pays $200,000 a year and donate $160,000? First of all, not many $200000 jobs are available to people who are willing to make $35000. And second, you totally neglect the non-monetary motivations and contributions of people who work for non-profits. Why do you think anyone but not this particular person can have the same contribution to the project for $160000? I'm sure Tim O'Reilly can and earns much more from his other ventures. That doesn't mean that just by donating amount equal to his salary at Gov 2.0 project anyone can make the same impact, don't you think? And what if the person that's going to do it is a fresh millionaire who just sold his start-up? Would you still discourage him/her?

by borism 16y ago

jrockway 16y ago

Not what I meant to convey. I said that if you're ok with $35,000 a year, why not get a job that pays $200,000 a year and donate $160,000? That cash is going to make a lot more difference than your PHP web app for contesting parking tickets ever will.

artmageddon 16y ago
I somewhat agree, but don't forget that a large portion of that will get taxed, which would limit the amount that you could donate.
- jrockway 16y ago
  Donations are pre-tax.
  - j0 16y ago
    Actually, donations come out of your post-tax income, and then you get a tax deduction (not a credit) for them, if you itemize your taxes.
    - jrockway 16y ago
      Doesn't this work out the same? I know if you just donate $20 and take the standard deduction it's post-tax, but if you donate $165,000, I'm sure that your accountant can work something out for you.
borism 16y ago
> I said that if you're ok with $35,000 a year, why not get a job that pays $200,000 a year and donate $160,000? First of all, not many $200000 jobs are available to people who are willing to make $35000. And second, you totally neglect the non-monetary motivations and contributions of people who work for non-profits. Why do you think anyone but not this particular person can have the same contribution to the project for $160000? I'm sure Tim O'Reilly can and earns much more from his other ventures. That doesn't mean that just by donating amount equal to his salary at Gov 2.0 project anyone can make the same impact, don't you think? And what if the person that's going to do it is a fresh millionaire who just sold his start-up? Would you still discourage him/her?